04-19-2004
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Just finished reinstalling my head and timing belt, and now there is no spark. Car turns over fine but I have no spark at all. All electrical connections are hooked up as far as I can tell. Something I might have missed?
Any ideas?
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04-19-2004
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spark plug wires the correct order. Did you do a swap. 1g in a 2g. must swap plugs 1 and 4 with 2 and 3 (order is not important). Otherwise if that is not the case. I had to hot wire my fuel pump to get started after the car sat around for 6 months. These suggestions may not help, but I tried to give a few suggestions. Only other things I could think of off the top of my head is power transister connected, every ground connected or I had a bad cas once. The trigger may be bad. Hook up yoUr timing light and adjust your actual BTDC or replace CAS. HOPE YOU FIGURE IT OUT SOON.
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04-19-2004
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#3
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Did you wire everything right on the CAS? Double check.
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04-19-2004
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By CAS do you mean cam or crank angle sensor? On 2g's the cam angle sensor is automatic, no timing is necessary I believe.
I just checked DTC's with DSMlink and it threw out a Crank Position sensor circuit malfunction code. So that narrows it down a bit  I thought I may have crossed the A/C and crank connectors but that wasn't the case. As far as I can tell the connector by the timing belt is connected, but I am wondering if there may be something wrong under the timing belt cover?
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04-19-2004
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If you did a swap and your crank signal is simulated with cas there should be yellow/white wires for cam connected to original 2g connectors and crank red/black to original connector. Again you may have not done swap so disregard then. If you did and your not running dsm link or stand alone you will misfire after 5 minutes of cruising. Adding resistance to barometric pressure wire to ecu will only work 10% of the time. Hope everything goes well.
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04-19-2004
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yeah it is a stock 2g head for now  So I am just wiring like stock, but do have DSMlink to give me check engine codes...
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04-19-2004
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I'd put money on it being the connector at the sensor itself, guess I will check it out tomorrow...
Chris
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04-19-2004
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I did not realize, sorry. I would check the harness and connector. If that is fine you will have to replace crank angle sensor assembly according to Mr. Chilton. Hope this is the answer.
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04-19-2004
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Stock 2G head as in 95-98, or 99? Since there is a difference between the two.
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04-20-2004
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Did you remove the crank pos sensor? It could be upside down or not plugged it.
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04-20-2004
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Stock 95 head. I didn't remove the crank position sensor as far as I recall, and I don't remember removing the harness or even seeing it. But the connector to the side of the Tbelt is plugged in so my last guess is something by the connector is wrong. There was a lot of debris from the timing belt cover getting chewed up when the timing belt went, maybe something got in the way?
I will just have to pull the cover and check it out I guess...
Chris
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04-20-2004
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Well the sensor is in place and the connector is as well. Still no spark, any ideas as to my next step?
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04-20-2004
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Swap the sensor. You have the code in front of you... Do something about it.
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04-20-2004
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Yeah that was going to be my last resort, maybe there is some way to check it without taking it out of the car. I don't want to pull the water pump pulleys and timing belt cover again if I don't have to. Also I cleared the code and it hasn't come back yet?
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04-20-2004
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A repair manual should have steps on how to test the sensor.
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04-21-2004
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Originally posted by Nash@Apr 19 2004, 09:55 PM
Stock 2G head as in 95-98, or 99? Since there is a difference between the two.
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Offtopic but, whats the difference in the 99's?
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04-21-2004
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97-99 are the same. 95-96 are different.
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04-21-2004
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yeah i believe the cam angle sensor signal is inverted, at least there is an option for it in DSMlink. I think they actually use a different CAS on the 97-99 cars.
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