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Old 03-22-2004   #1
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Well this weekend I went out to Gueningsman Auto, in Winsted MN, they have a inground dynojet, to dyno my 90 talon. This shop deals with truck pulling, NA 540 big blocks and make 750 at the rear wheels with only one carb. But my talon has the Galant shortblock in it, and stock head minus crower retainers, and HKS 272 cams. Same turbo as the galant, garrett T3/T4 60trim stg 3 .82A/R 4 bolt turbine housing. 3" dp with exaust cut out(hooks up to stock cat back for a quite ride), proper fuel, GM maft and 3" maf, AFC, big IC, 2.5" IC piping, 2g TB elbo, stock intake manifold, jidum GVR4 tranny. and my base timing set to 5deg. cams at 0. And my intake pipe fell off heading out there, so some one has a nice K&N air filer.

Pump gas made 415hp 366trq. A/F were good 11.2-11.5 range, no logger so I dont know if 24psi was to much, I think 22-23 would be better.

C-16 made 526hp 464 trq. I dont know A/F because there wideband would not read leaded gas that well, or atleast thats what they said. So I made no AFC setting changes I just turned the boost up, first pull blew the coupler off at the MAF holding 34psi, then I re-tighted all claps and at 35psi made the power above. Also I spun the tires on the dyno just befor it made peek power, a little smoke and rubber dust. There is a dip in the HP line right when this happend. I dont know what if any corrections were made. So now I get to go to Elite and tune the A/F on race gas and I hope to make a little more power with 34psi and a little more timing and less fuel.

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Old 03-22-2004   #2
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wow, nice numbers
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Old 03-22-2004   #3
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Excellent numbers! Why did you go there first vs Elite? Just curious....
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Old 03-22-2004   #4
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Well it was only 100 for an hour, and I did not know there wideband did not work with heavy leaded gas(ie VP c-16). So I dont think I will go back unless it just for pump gas, or sunaco 114 unleaded.

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Old 03-22-2004   #5
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Nice numbers John and good luck at the track!
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Old 03-22-2004   #6
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I will need it, I did find a nice set of rims and tires to barrow, for the track. I dont think walmart tires will take 530hp to well.

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Old 03-22-2004   #7
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Congratulations. Your really pushing that turbo. What headgasket are you running? Whats up with the stock intake manifold? Didn't you have a sheetmetal one last year?

Sunoco makes a 114 unleaded?
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Old 03-22-2004   #8
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John those are some nice numbers. :drool: It will be interesting to see what the A/F looks like on elite's dyno on c16. Those are some pretty big numbers for the MAFT, looks like the 3" GM MAF is fine for me.

How was the shop you dyno'ed at? What did they think of your car? I too would like to know what headgasket you are running?

Again, good job!

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Old 03-22-2004   #9
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Damn it and here I felt all special cause I knew what you'd put down. And I was impressed with my self that I was actually keeping my mouth shut. (something that I've been trying to work on after that whole mod list ordeal) hey but at least something good came out of that ordeal. (mn 1/4 mayhem)

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Old 03-22-2004   #10
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I believe John is just running a stock Mitsu headgasket. But not sure if it's the metal one or not?


Yes John will be big balling with the rims he's barrowing for the track.... Yep he wants to barrow my Chrome Duby Dubssss....... :liar: J/k...you can if you really want to. Might help slow down the wheel spin since they are so heavy... :bounce:


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Damn, nice numbers. So let's see that dyno sheet.
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He showed me all 3 sheets yesterday while he was helping me put Jenny's car back together.


Hopefully I didn't get them to dirty...... (where the hell is that Monkey spanking it smiley when you need it?)
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Old 03-22-2004   #13
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Nice numbers. Ever gonna upgrade turbos? if so PM me
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I think John set the bar up pretty high.... Can't wait to see it in person when ever the opener gets organized.

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He is using a copper sprayed stock composite head gasket. And a lot of torque on the ARP’s. The sheet metal intake manifold stayed on the shelf cause he wants to build a better one I think. And yes he is pushing the hell out of that turbo, the compressor map ends at a 2.8 PR, 35 PSI is a 3.38 PR, assuming we are getting a full 14.7psia, which we are probably a bit short of.
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Old 03-22-2004   #16
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Nice job, John! You are making it rough for me and Nash! I am glad to see some good competition, it makes me work that much harder. I am curious to see what you make once you get that thing tuned!
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Congrats on the great numbers. Maybe now i can get a ride agian with the C16 .
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Old 03-22-2004   #18
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wow, uber awesome numbers dude. now put it all back in the galant!!!!
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Wow that is pretty awesome! Cant wait to see it at the track.
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