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Old 04-17-2007   #1
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Soft brakes

On my 96 tsi awd, I just had my brakes re-done, but they feel the same as before. Before I had cheap rotors, cheap pads, stock lines, etc.

I just got stainless lines for all 4 brakes, powerslot rotors and porterfield pads in the front. I assumed this would have helped a lot, but I can't tell the difference at all, they're still pretty squishy.

Besides bleeding them, any ideas? Do they take awhile to break in and grip well?
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Re: Soft brakes

Only thing could be that it wasnt bled properly, or your master cylinder is going bad or the air assist isnt working properly?

Pedal should be rock hard, has been in all my cars in the past.
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Only thing could be that it wasnt bled properly, or your master cylinder is going bad or the air assist isnt working properly?

Pedal should be rock hard, has been in all my cars in the past.
Agreed. That setup should feel nice and solid when you push the pedal.
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Re: Soft brakes

Did you bed the pads yet? Do several (like 4-6) 80-20mph stops. Push the pedal down HARD, but maintain control of the car.
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Re: Soft brakes

That wont make a pedal go from soft to hard though, just bite better. If his pedal is mushy or soft there is another problem.
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Old 04-17-2007   #6
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Re: Soft brakes

Does the pressure change when you pump it?
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Re: Soft brakes

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Does the pressure change when you pump it?
Oh yea good call, I forgot to mention that, sorry. If I hit the brakes to stop for a second or two, then release and quickly re-apply, it's firm like it should be. It was like that before the brake change as well.

I replaced my brakes two years ago and it had the same problem, even after bleeding them. Also, my ABS light came on a little over a year ago, not sure if that applies.

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Re: Soft brakes

That sounds like your master cylinder needs to be replaced.
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Old 04-19-2007   #9
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Re: Soft brakes

The new master cylinder is in, feels much better. Now there less than an inch of play before it starts grabbing. Still a little bit stiffer after pumping, but not a huge difference like before.
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Good to hear!
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Re: Soft brakes

I really need to change mine. Mine are soft and firm up in the same way. I'm glad to hear it cured your problem, because I have been assuming an internally leaking master for a long time.
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