03-21-2007
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Join Date: May 2004
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FMIC kits
I was wondering what the main differences are in FMIC kits that you can buy off eBAY for around $500 vs. the ones that cost over $1000 from places like dsmparts, slowboyracing, etc.? Is it just the type of piping or what? Im looking to get a FMIC for my 93 talon tsi, so I wanna see what you guys would recommend.
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03-21-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
The cores. Not all heat exchangers are created equally.
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03-21-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
There can also be a variance in the material used, it's finish, and how much work is labor in house and outsourced. Add in quality couplers, and shit adds up quick.
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03-21-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
ebay core ftw!
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
Not really,there isnt a whole lot of difference between the two, as long as you look at materials used and flow design. I mean intercoolers dont have alot to them, the design isnt complicated or anything. I would just say look for a good source off ebay and pay less. Im sure you wont need a $1000 intercooler, youll get by fine with a $500 one.
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
How about we have Shane, Mo, or LSE chime in so they can share their experiences with "quality" ebay cores heatsoaking like mad.
Not all of them are shit, but most are.
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
Intercoolers have been discussed time and time again on this board, search around a bit.
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talon628
I mean intercoolers dont have alot to them, the design isnt complicated or anything.
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03-22-2007
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Area code 166 represent
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Re: FMIC kits
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Originally Posted by Talon628
Not really,there isnt a whole lot of difference between the two, as long as you look at materials used and flow design. I mean intercoolers dont have alot to them, the design isnt complicated or anything. I would just say look for a good source off ebay and pay less. Im sure you wont need a $1000 intercooler, youll get by fine with a $500 one.
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Can you please have a few years of research and experiance about the products at hand before you make false statements?
If someone really wants to read a good link on intercoolers I've always liked the explanation here: http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/intercooler.html
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
We so still have a search button don't we?
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
Whats this Search button you speak of????
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
I was looking for more of an answer on the piping kits. I read the forum on the intercooler core itself. I'm so sorry I didn't do a search first. I suppose since now I sinned against all of you, you should probably go ahead and curb stomp my face in. Thank you to all of you that responded.
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
Double post.
Last edited by ExTREME; 03-22-2007 at 05:57 PM..
Reason: DBL POST OMG
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
Whos Ebay?
FYI - If you want to buy an ebay IC, a guy on another forum collaborates the 'good' stuff from ebay kits and sells his own for around 300.
And when I say 300 thats rounded UP. 2.75" core.
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03-22-2007
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: FMIC kits
Just trying to help someone not spend $1000 on one part make sence enough? Just dont buy like a $100 intercooler off ebay cause chances are it might not be very great. And for piping, I dont really think you need a kit, I made my own. Just get the piping and cut-to-fit, then weld beads around the ends and thats it.
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSMStyle
Can you please have a few years of research and experiance about the products at hand before you make false statements?
If someone really wants to read a good link on intercoolers I've always liked the explanation here: http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/intercooler.html |
What statments have I said that are false? I never made a statment, and I never told him anything false. I just said an air to air heat exchanger doesnt take long to understand.
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
My advice is no good, please delete.
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03-22-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
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Originally Posted by niterydr
Production costs, build quality, material selection, design, and effectiveness can all play a roll in pricing of products.
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I was going to say the same thing, and for most of the $1000 kits they actually have done some r&d to find the most efficient path for the air to travel. You get what you pay for.
On the other hand i built my intercooler setup and i like it, 2 1/2" piping and a OEM Evo VIII intercooler. I spent around $500, but my trade offs are that it looks no where near as nice as a $1000 kit and i had to take the time out and retro fit the piping. I actually had LSE make my LICP later on because i was having issues with a bend and i dont have a welder and they did a fantastic job.
my $.02
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03-23-2007
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Re: FMIC kits
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Originally Posted by DSM1G
I was looking for more of an answer on the piping kits. I read the forum on the intercooler core itself. I'm so sorry I didn't do a search first. I suppose since now I sinned against all of you, you should probably go ahead and curb stomp my face in. Thank you to all of you that responded.
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Just make sure when you buy the plumming kit it has a BOV flange and the bead weld around the ends for the coulper, weither it be 2.50, 2.75, or 3 inch, stainless, or painted, Plastic or metal, all your choice.. Hope this helps and good luck
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