tranny problems

dsmberge · 10-31-2004

having some problems with my tranny. the clutch wont disengage far enough and we already relace the clutch master and the slave cylinder. still having the same problems. im at a loss and i cant figure it out. i have a jdm tranny and i had the same problem with the old tranny and i was wondering if soemone out there could help me. drop me a line.
thanks
Brad

unreal808 · 10-31-2004

What was the last thing you did, before the clutch wouldn't disengage?

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 10-31-2004

Could be a worn clutch fork/pivot ball. Worn clutch forks are extremely common. I have my own way of measuring clutch forks for wear and measurements from ones at different stages. If it is worn, you can buy a new one from Mitsu for something like $65. Or you can try to ghetto fix it by putting a washer under the pivot ball, or getting a longer slave rod, or by welding a nut onto the part that the clutch adjustment rod threads into for more adjustment.

Actually, have you even tried adjusting the clutch pedal at all yet?

TheBlizzard · 11-02-2004

Damn Shane, you actually got a problem out of that? All it did for me is give me a fucking headache.

My advice would be, buy a keyboard with shift key.

CRAIG

A//// Guy · 11-02-2004

Besides capitalization and using commas theres really nothing bad about how he wrote his problem? I understood it just fine.

TheBlizzard · 11-02-2004

So whats wrong with it then genius?

CRAIG

A//// Guy · 11-02-2004

Shane gave him all the good starting places and covered most everything that could be wrong with it... thats why I didnt reply.

I guess I just dont see your problem with how he asked his questions??

TheBlizzard · 11-02-2004

I guess it could be because I came from reading tech threads on NABR. And after reading threads on there where they actually enforce grammar, and make damn sure that people posts relative mods, and also make sure tech posts are as descriptive as possible.

Better to have more information that not enough, and its a plus if its easy to read as well. I mean even year of car would be nice.

As far as his problem goes:

Is the clutch doing the same exact same thing it was doing before you replaced the master cylinder? If it is, its unlikely that you need to adjust your clutch, unless for some reason you got the rod in the exact same spot as it was before you did the master cylinder.

I would lean towards a worn clutch pedal assembly itself, or a worn clutch fork/pivot ball like Shane said.

CRAIG

santa · 11-02-2004

Its a folcrum ball! I dont understand why you would think that adjusting the clutch peddle wouldnt possibly help him out with his problem? I would start with a flush of the slave cyl. Get some new fluid and bleed the clutch. TRE's web site has a good description on how to bleed your slave cyl. If that doesn't work You could try the washer deal. It is a cheap was of fixing your problem but a pain in the a$$ to do because you have to pull the tranny out again. the exstended slave rod could fix your problem too. I would do all of those if bleeding the slave and adjusting the clutch rod under the dash. The other problem could also be worn syncro's or possibly a bent input shaft(I can't think of the proper name).

Kevin

Kevin

TheBlizzard · 11-02-2004

The one and only reason I would say it would not be the adjustment rod under the dash is because he said he replaced the master cylinder right? Well you would have to be pretty slick to get the rod in the exact same spot as it was before you replaced the master cylinder to get it to act just like it did before you replaced the master cylinder.

Now if he hadn't replaced the master cylinder, it would be the obvious place to start the troubleshooting process. And as far as bleeding and such, I would be willing to bet he bled the clutch after he did the master and the slave already, but who knows.

CRAIG

dsmberge · 11-03-2004

i had the same problems with my old tranny. so i kinda ruled out the clutch fork and ball.it does the exact same thing. and yes i bled the shit out of the entire system when i changed the master and slave cylinder.

dsmberge · 11-03-2004

Thanks craig the next thing we were gonna try was the pedal assembly, and its a 90 eagle talon with a 91 jdm cyclone motor and tranny. The only thing that changed was the pedal pressure after the master because i knew that was shot.

TheBlizzard · 11-04-2004

A good way to check your pedal assembly is to push your clutch in and let it come up as far as it will go on its own. Then take your hand and pull up on the clutch pedal. If you can pull up on it quit a bit then your assembly could be pretty worn and might need replacing. I have never done one myself but I heard they are not too fun, I think Cher (.guest.) off this board has done one recently. You could ask him for some pointers on doing it.

CRAIG

A//// Guy · 11-04-2004

That would be me that did it... Not yet complete...

And no the pedal does not have to come up ALOT when you pull up on it. Mine barely moved and thats enough play in the lever to mess things up quite a bit.

I had it welded and its back in just have to bleed it and see if that helped. Everything is new so it should be mint.

dsmberge · 11-06-2004

is it true that they dont make one of the pedal assembly parts anymore?

dsmberge · 11-06-2004

Thanks for your help guys even though some of you perfered to criticize me but for the ones that helped me out you guys are awesome.

A//// Guy · 11-06-2004

When I ordered the assembly parts they had them all at mitsu...