Teachers must HATE AMERICA!?!?!?!?!

**1ViciousGSX** · 12-30-2009

Minnesota University Wants K-12 Teachers to Hate America

What are my Minnesotian brothers and sister up to?!?!?!

tpunx99GSX · 12-30-2009

It sounds like the board wants to make teachers honest for once. Instead of letting these kids think that when they get out into the world there will be no such thing as social, racial, or sexual injustices.
Its funny because when you get into college and take a history course, you realise that everything you were taught in high school history is completly bullshit. Take for instance, christopher columbus and his crew slaying many native americans. k-12 you learn that it was a peaceful journey and they had a great feast that symbolized peace between two cultures... when in reality the crews of the settlers were engaging in travisties such as cannibalism, murder, rape and genocide. your world is thrown upside down because you have been lied to your entire life by teachers you trusted to tell you HISTORY, not a fictional fairy tale. But i guess you need to pay for that kind of knowledge.
The fact of the matter is that they do not hate the country, they just feel that if you dont prepare the kids for the harsh world out there, they will end up hating america much more. Conservatives love to live in a little fantasy world where america is great and peace (among straight white men) is rampant. But the fact of the matter is that the world out there is filled with lies that have been told to us our entire lives.

**goodhart** · 12-30-2009

Here we go...another great mitsustyle political debate lol

awd-drifter · 12-30-2009

My little brother and sister are still telling me about how terrible my car hurting the planet....I'd rather have them(kids) think about the planet than something that won't do much for their lives in that age.

**Kracka** · 12-30-2009

More liberal BS out of Minnesota; glad I left. I'm ashamed to hold a U of M diploma after reading this though.

Tom, you have quite a bit to learn about Minnesota's current K12 education system.

FattyBoomBatty · 12-30-2009

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Originally Posted by Kracka

More liberal BS out of Minnesota; glad I left. I'm ashamed to hold a U of M diploma after reading this though.

Tom, you have quite a bit to learn about Minnesota's current K12 education system.

Well, it's too bad you can't tell the difference between an unbiased story and a completely right-leaning publication such as this one. I'm sure if you read the University's own version you might be able to draw your own conclusions, but probably not, since Republicans tend to simply regurgitate the real bullshit spewed by people like Rush Limbaugh, et. al. The difference is, for how much garbage he puts out there, he actually has to do some research. I hate to call it that though.

And if you are so adamant about bashing Minnesota, I say good fucking riddance. And don't prove me right that you're a closet Fascist by banning me cause I said something you don't like.

**Kracka** · 12-30-2009

LOL Calm down there killer, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion! I have the right to spew my conservative opinions just like you do your liberal ones. There is no such thing as a true neutral media outlet, and even if there was everything is in the eye of the beholder so you take the U of M's statement one way and I take it another. Get over it; facts of life son which is why we have our 2-party (realistically) democratic system.

Also, I have never once banned anyone (paybanning doesn't count) just for saying something I don't like. As I stated above, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but members do get banned for violating forum rules which again have nothing to do with personal views and more to do with member bashing.

Yet again though, another political thread and look who is turning it into a fight...

**1ViciousGSX** · 12-30-2009

As it's been said before, opinions and discussion are always welcome. Once it gets to be a personal attack, well,.....................

**cmspaz** · 12-30-2009

Wait, people have issues because teachers are going to tell kids that America isn't the best shit in the world? We're not, and we shouldn't claim to be. And teaching kids that we are is what causes the shit I see every day at work, where you get people thinking they're entitled to shit because they're in America.

Had a guy call the cops yesterday when we refused him service. Why? We couldn't do what he wanted so he got belligerent, and when we tried to kick him out, he called the cops.

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Originally Posted by awd-drifter

My little brother and sister are still telling me about how terrible my car hurting the planet....I'd rather have them(kids) think about the planet than something that won't do much for their lives in that age.

I'd rather have them think about having fun as a kid instead of fake world issues like global warming. They can grow up and be the scourge of the earth that are Prius driving yuppies if it makes them feel better about raping the countryside of Canada for 2000 Lithium batteries they're going to need to replace every 5 years. All cars pollute in some way, shape, or form, that's the thing the biased car manufacturers don't tell you, and kids these days aren't informed enough to question the media.

**Kracka** · 12-30-2009

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kids these days aren't informed enough to question the media.

Agreed 100%.

311evo · 12-30-2009

Including yourself.

Kids just like to be rebellious against any form of control. Welcome to earth.

Why is it someone always brings up Rush Limbaugh whenever someone is conservative? Maybe we should bring up Al Gore and how he made Billions of dollars off of American citizens from the bull shit global warming scare he spewed.

**mlomker** · 12-30-2009

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Maybe we should bring up Al Gore and how he made Billions of dollars off of American citizens from the bull shit global warming scare he spewed.

Flying from conference to conference in a private jet.

I'm a libertarian and guys like Ron Paul aren't looking quite so crazy these days. I guess that tells you something about the state of affairs.

**cmspaz** · 12-31-2009

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guys like Ron Paul aren't looking quite so crazy these days. I guess that tells you something about the state of affairs.

Yeah, I'm with you on this one. I'll admit, I voted for Obama. Probably the worst choice of my life, or at least it's up there. In hindsight, Ron Paul should have gotten my vote.

**Goat Blower** · 12-31-2009

The current climate is that we're undermining our own country with apologetics. To somehow think that we as a whole are this overbearing, race-hating group of white capitalists is a bunch of sissy crap. We are a large group of multi-national people that strive to be great and create a better place for our kids. We are the greatest nation on earth and help countlesss countries around the world economically and with military protection or help. We have absolutely nothing to apologize to the world for.

The United States of America was created to get away from the very thing we are now becoming, a heavily-taxed nanny state full of political correctness but no real social or economic sense. We are quickly burying ourselves in debt with absolutely nothing to show for it and one day we'll wake up and wonder why we, like most of Europe, have 60% tax and $9/gallon gas. The answer isn't to drive 400# shitbox cars, the answer is to quit bowing down to the socialist environmentalist whackjobs and let good old money decide what the American public wants to drive.

Our government is there to protect us from foreign enemies, not to run every aspect of your lives. Those of you that think you've somehow protected your country by sitting behind your computer screen need to wake up and smell reality. It's easy to sit and complain, it's something altogether different to actually do something for your country.

**mlomker** · 12-31-2009

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We have absolutely nothing to apologize to the world for.

Our government is there to protect us from foreign enemies, not to run every aspect of your lives.

I agree with the second part but not the first. We've been meddling in the affairs of many foreign governments for a great many years. Do you think the CIA isn't over in Iran instigating those protests? A lot of the debt that we've run up is due to those very same intelligence and military operations.

Are you suggesting that we run for office or join the military? A typical citizen shouldn't need to be that involved--we have a representative government. Not having an opinion on matters of the day would suggest being intentionally uninformed about what is going on and surely you aren't suggesting that...

**goodhart** · 12-31-2009

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower

The current climate is that we're undermining our own country with apologetics. To somehow think that we as a whole are this overbearing, race-hating group of white capitalists is a bunch of sissy crap. We are a large group of multi-national people that strive to be great and create a better place for our kids. We are the greatest nation on earth and help countlesss countries around the world economically and with military protection or help. We have absolutely nothing to apologize to the world for.

The United States of America was created to get away from the very thing we are now becoming, a heavily-taxed nanny state full of political correctness but no real social or economic sense. We are quickly burying ourselves in debt with absolutely nothing to show for it and one day we'll wake up and wonder why we, like most of Europe, have 60% tax and $9/gallon gas. The answer isn't to drive 400# shitbox cars, the answer is to quit bowing down to the socialist environmentalist whackjobs and let good old money decide what the American public wants to drive.

Our government is there to protect us from foreign enemies, not to run every aspect of your lives. Those of you that think you've somehow protected your country by sitting behind your computer screen need to wake up and smell reality. It's easy to sit and complain, it's something altogether different to actually do something for your country.

Quote of the month right there. Best thing I've heard come out of these political arguments in quite a while here.

**Tachyon** · 12-31-2009

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Originally Posted by awd-drifter

My little brother and sister are still telling me about how terrible my car hurting the planet....

Do they have pets?

here's some food for thought:

http://www.physorg.com/news176582720.html

**mlomker** · 12-31-2009

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Originally Posted by awd-drifter

My little brother and sister are still telling me about how terrible my car hurting the planet.

I'm one of those guys that bought an hfc for the exhaust since I have at least a passing interest in the planet. I was seriously debating (with myself) the other day whether I could justify running a test pipe now that I'm on E85. heh. Guilt is a bitch.

**Kracka** · 12-31-2009

If anything, running E85 should make you want to keep your HFC since its worse for the environment than regular gasoline.

**mlomker** · 12-31-2009

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If anything, running E85 should make you want to keep your HFC since its worse for the environment than regular gasoline.

Where did you read that? Everything that I've seen is to the contrary.

E85 is clean. A typical FFV driver can prevent 4 tons of lifecycle carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions and other harmful pollutants from entering our air every year by fueling with E85 instead of gasoline. Using E85 can reduce tailpipe emissions such as ozone-forming pollutants by about 20%. E85 will also reduce evaporative emissions of air toxics and ozone formers.
American Lung Association