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Trogdor
06-26-2015, 01:40 PM
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I challenge any one person to come up with a legitimate argument against this that doesn't involve religion. Unless of course you can definitively prove that your religion is the one true, correct, religion. Remember, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion," has also been determined by the supreme court to mean that government can't create laws endorsing any one particular religion's views.
jeremy1375
06-26-2015, 02:16 PM
The gay marriage ruling and the Obamacare ruling are ruining my straight marriage!
Kracka
06-26-2015, 03:11 PM
I challenge any one person to come up with a legitimate argument against this that doesn't involve religion.
Religion can be a legitimate argument; that is their opinion, which is their right. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it wrong. Do I agree with gay marriage? No. Is it wrong? Not for me to decide. If a guy wants to stick his cock in another dude's ass do I really care? Not really...have at it home boy, less competition for the rest of us :)
Trogdor
06-26-2015, 03:16 PM
When it comes to US law, religion should not be a valid argument. One of the things that the United States was founded was religious freedom. That includes not allowing religious ideals to influence decisions when making laws that affect people who may not be members of that specific religion.
Further not all Christians even agree on this issue.
And, if you want to use religion as a justification to ban thing, then I want to ban divorce. The Bible says that's forbidden, unless it's in the case of infidelity.
Kracka
06-26-2015, 03:19 PM
Religious ideals, along with lack of religious ideals, influence voting, and voting influences law/government.
Remember, there is a difference between being non-religious and anti-religion; two completely different things.
jeremy1375
06-26-2015, 03:31 PM
This is a complicated discussion. Anyone who believes gay marriage is wrong has every right to believe that for any reason.
The problem comes in when those who don't believe in it think their beliefs supersede everyone else so that those who do believe in it shouldn't have it. That's just straight up being a self-centered dick.
Trogdor
06-27-2015, 01:54 AM
Remember, there is a difference between being non-religious and anti-religion; two completely different things.
Again, the Supreme Court has interpreted that laws should not endorse any one particular religion's views. So, yes anti-religious laws are not permitted, which is the more overt statement in "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise." But it is also supposed to prohibit law being created based on religious views.
tpunx99GSX
06-29-2015, 11:02 AM
cant find a single reason why not. #LoveWins
Allowing gay people to marry the one they love does not affect my life, my marriage, or my love in any way, shape or form, but does affect my friends who have chosen to marry someone of the same sex, which gives them the same happiness I have.
Conservatives who want small government should be for this, get the government out of the bedroom and stop telling people who they can and cannot love and marry.
1ViciousGSX
06-29-2015, 11:21 AM
cant find a single reason why not. #LoveWins
Allowing gay people to marry the one they love does not affect my life, my marriage, or my love in any way, shape or form, but does affect my friends who have chosen to marry someone of the same sex, which gives them the same happiness I have.
Conservatives who want small government should be for this, get the government out of the bedroom and stop telling people who they can and cannot love and marry.
I don't think they needed to destroy the definition of marriage to do it, because it is the bonding of a man and a woman, has always been the bonding of a man and a woman, but there's a bigger issue here. And it's already starting to show itself because here comes the pedophiles,..... Because they deserve "the same happiness you have".
Trogdor
06-29-2015, 11:28 AM
I don't think they needed to destroy the definition of marriage to do it, because it is the bonding of a man and a woman, has always been the bonding of a man and a woman, but there's a bigger issue here. And it's already starting to show itself because here comes the pedophiles,..... Because they deserve "the same happiness you have".
That's a slippery slope argument.
Furthermore, its very easy to argue that people of X age and younger lack the capacity to make Y decision. There will always be exceptions to this, and some of our age limits here in America are set arbitrarily. But to a large degree, science (not subjective religious opinions) and set this straight.
Additionally, we can definitively show young kids who experience molestation, or other sexual experiences at a young age are much more likely to develop mental health problems. There is a clear negative effect there, unlike in the case of same-sex marriage (other wise now know as just marriage).
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