Possibly the most retarded anti-gun ad I've ever seen...

[1ViciousGSX]

You have free speech just like i do. I am not taking offense, im going on the offense. Which liberals, it seems, constantly back down from. Im just tired of Conservatards thinking they know everything yet are some of the most closed minded people around. but because they are constantly yelling "Wah wah wah" that somehow makes their point valid. Im sorry but your point is stupid, and please go back to the hole you crawled out of.

I don't remember typing "Wah wah wah", but if it makes you feel better believing that I did and it helps you sleep better at night please stick with it.

Because here we have yet another example of how liberals when faced with an opinion they don't like will tell somebody their point is stupid and they should go back to the hole they crawled out of. Nice rebuttal to my points, as you used clear and concise evidence based facts to take me down, NOT! :boxing:

[AwdGSX13]

This thread is a perfect example of an exercise in futility.

Why do you guys even waste your time babbling on back and forth?


I think this is any conversation that has to do with politics lol

[tehehodi]

When do I get my free gun from the goberment?

[1ViciousGSX]

When do I get my free gun from the goberment?

Just fill out your Mexican Cartel gang member papers and Team Obama/Holder will ship it out pronto. :guns:

[JET]

You have free speech just like i do. I am not taking offense, im going on the offense. Which liberals, it seems, constantly back down from. Im just tired of Conservatards thinking they know everything yet are some of the most closed minded people around. but because they are constantly yelling "Wah wah wah" that somehow makes their point valid. Im sorry but your point is stupid, and please go back to the hole you crawled out of.

A liberal is saying the conservatives run around yelling "wah, wah, wah"?? I see that 95% of the time from liberals and no I am not a conservative. I lean that way on monetary concerns but more liberal on many social aspects.

All government is just F'd up though. They are just doing what they are paid to do by the companies with the biggest checkbook.

[Goat Blower]

They are just doing what they are paid to do by the companies with the biggest checkbook.

Don't forget organizations like the unions, which are by far the largest political contributors.

[jeremy1375]

It is hard for me to think of one that thing that Obama has done well since taking office ( other than the 8k i received for buying a house ) but I can admit I'm a bit biased regarding that.

Everything else he has done has been surrounded by controversy and somethings potentially illegal ( immigration reform ). Which makes you wonder since we have so many people that are still below poverty, actual current tax paying Americans. But he is willing to take just under a billion in tax payer money to help fund that.

But back on topic, all of the ideas coming from liberal democrats to curb gun violence is either misinformed or the information is just plain untrue. Maybe using libtards is wrong, but in the end they have not proposed anything that actually makes me think they are using their brain. I know republicans or (inbred christian nutjobs) have come with ideas that help with pre-screening people purchasing firearms and perhaps training before being able to buy a gun. But simply banning certain weapons will not fix the problem.

I appreciate that fact that you served Jeremy, but I wouldn't be so quick to take offence.

As far as what Obama has done, I would argue that the ACA was a huge deal. Obviously it's still a divisive issue, but I'm still a supporter of it.

When it comes to guns, that's another complicated issue. With urban centers becoming more and more densely populated, the likelihood that a mass shooting can take out more people increases. I'm not saying banning certain weapons will fix the problem, but a line does exist on what weapons are allowed. I've heard very little dissent about the automatic weapons ban. When is the last time you heard about a mass shooting where a machine gun was used? Would you want the ban on full autos lifted? I can't say that I would.

As far as the offense goes, I just don't feel very welcome in a place when I hear shit like that. It promotes taking and defending sides, not discussion.

[AwdGSX13]

Automatic weapons are not "illegal", you just need a special permit to own. They do make it pretty time consuming and you really open yourself up to the government if you do get approved for a automatic weapons permit, but anyone can apply and deal with the bs.

[1ViciousGSX]

The problem with gun control on any level is that it only burdens and punishes the law abiding citizen. Criminals don't follow laws.

You want a safer neighborhood or a safer nation, promote the value of life.

[jeremy1375]

Automatic weapons are not "illegal", you just need a special permit to own. They do make it pretty time consuming and you really open yourself up to the government if you do get approved for a automatic weapons permit, but anyone can apply and deal with the bs.

Correct, the point I am trying to make is they are so tightly regulated and expensive now that vast majority of gun owners will never own one. Due to extreme regulations on them, it's extremely unlikely a child, irrational person, or even criminal will ever get their hands on one. They are effectively out of the hands of irresponsible/careless owners.

I certainly don't want to see "assault" weapons be made illegal. The problem I see is that they're inexpensive, and getting even cheaper. They are accessible to just about everyone. Most are accurate enough to hit a man sized target at 500 yards with the proper training. They are sensationalized in movies and video games and, with a full magazine, a person can fire off 30 rounds before a reload. I don't understand why background check requirement bills are receiving almost no conservative support?

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/issues/guns/vote_2013.php