Possibly the most retarded anti-gun ad I've ever seen...

[jeremy1375]

How did gun rights violate the kids rights? Your rights and my rights to gun ownership did not cause that trigger to get pulled.

I agree it's a sad situation for all involved, especially for the parents and the brother. Those parents will be held accountable and have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

But this notion that you can regulate society in to a safe haven is rediculous. You want all Americans to give up their rights and freedoms over one person's dumb ass mistake? I know I don't.

Should we outlaw bath tubs because a child can accidentally drown in them?
Should we outlaw bicycles because a child can accidentally fall and break an arm?
Should we outlaw dirt bikes because a tree might get in the way and cause a crash?
Should we outlaw stoves because a child could touch a hot surface and get burned?

Ands so on?

Are building codes, electrical codes, driving laws, ect all infringements on our freedom? Should I be able to build a piece of shit house and sell it to the next guy and be protected by "freedom" when it falls on the next owner?

Your logic is comparing everyday items with firearms. Firearm are not everyday items laying around the house.

[1ViciousGSX]

Are building codes, electrical codes, driving laws, ect all infringements on our freedom? Should I be able to build a piece of shit house and sell it to the next guy and be protected by "freedom" when it falls on the next owner?

Your logic is comparing everyday items with firearms. Firearm are not everyday items laying around the house.


Straw man argument.

Regulating how something is built is not the same as outlawing said item.
Making sure a gun doesn't blow up in your hands is pretty smart don't you think.

And I guess it depends on who's house we're talking about with guns just lying around. To some people, firearms are everyday items.

[jeremy1375]

You said outlaw. I did not.

[1ViciousGSX]

You said outlaw. I did not.

I'm sorry, exchange "outlaw" with "removed from your possession for your own protection".

Are you guys really that scared of a gun? Seriously?

[1ViciousGSX]

No, there are laws about leaving a loaded gun accessible, not just leaving a gun out. And the laws very from state to state.

True

[jeremy1375]

I'm sorry, exchange "outlaw" with "removed from your possession for your own protection".

Are you guys really that scared of a gun? Seriously?

I am arguing that you shouldn't be able to possess a gun unless you've displayed competence and understanding of said gun. What else is a "well regulated" militia if everyone is not trained? It's an unregulated militia which is not constitutional.

You argue the value of life being important to be an important country virtue. Kids dies, it's darwinism.

Any point bringing up regulation or comparison to any of subject is moot point or straw man argument.

Bring some substance to the table.

[1ViciousGSX]

How about this. Let's talk about all the people who have saved their families, their children, and themselves from harm by having a gun.
Let's think about the fact that if somebody was kicking in your door to rob you, beat you, rape and kill your wife or daughter in front of you, etc, would you rather have a gun or not? Because this happens every damn day in this country. I'd bet AJ would like to keep his for this reason.

[JET]

I am arguing that you shouldn't be able to possess a gun unless you've displayed competence and understanding of said gun. What else is a "well regulated" militia if everyone is not trained? It's an unregulated militia which is not constitutional.

You argue the value of life being important to be an important country virtue. Kids dies, it's darwinism.

Any point bringing up regulation or comparison to any of subject is moot point or straw man argument.

Bring some substance to the table.

2 kids per DAY drown in pools. I don't see anyone shouting for pools to be regulated and the parents prosecuted if a child drowns. I have also seen instances where kids were saved because there was a firearm available to them so they could stop the perpetrator.

[1ViciousGSX]

I am arguing that you shouldn't be able to possess a gun unless you've displayed competence and understanding of said gun. What else is a "well regulated" militia if everyone is not trained? It's an unregulated militia which is not constitutional.

You argue the value of life being important to be an important country virtue. Kids dies, it's darwinism.

Any point bringing up regulation or comparison to any of subject is moot point or straw man argument.

Bring some substance to the table.

So tell us, if it were King Jeremy day, what would you do? What would you put in place that removes all chance of an accident without infringing on our rights to gun ownership and use? How would you regulate gun ownership so that when it comes time for somebody to protect their families they don't get shot in the back while trying to enter a code in their lock box?

[1ViciousGSX]

2 kids per DAY drown in pools. I don't see anyone shouting for pools to be regulated and the parents prosecuted if a child drowns. I have also seen instances where kids were saved because there was a firearm available to them so they could stop the perpetrator.

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