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tpunx99GSX
05-28-2004, 02:09 AM
Can we put this in our cars? what is the octane rating? anybody know anything about this shit? BTW its 85% ethenol gas

niterydr
05-28-2004, 02:13 AM
octane rating 109ish, no our cars aren't designed to burn this shit, lightening gsx wants to have his car running on it, it was discussed elsewhere on this board.
SEARCH!
or just pm eric (lightening gsx).

LightningGSX
05-28-2004, 02:37 AM
Yeah, it needs to be ran at about a 10:1 A/F ratio.You'll need to swap any rubber seals that come in contact with it, over to Teflon or similar.It will corrode anything made from aluminum, so you may need to swap fuel lines, fuel rail, etc(I'm not sure what everything is made of yet).And finally E85 will conduct electricity(gas does not), so you'd need to shield/ground the fuel pump.The OEMs put a flame arrestor in the filler neck, which would probably be a good thing for us also.Its not as difficult as it sounds, I'll let people know once I figure everything out.

Oh yeah, you'll end up with about 20%-30% less fuel economy and the octane rating is between 95 and 105(depending on season and area, I keep meaning to stop by an E85 pump and check the octane rating around here)

Kracka
05-28-2004, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by LightningGSX@May 28 2004, 01:37 AM
Oh yeah, you'll end up with about 20%-30% less fuel economy and the octane rating is between 95 and 105
So basically it is cheaper just to run race-gas rather than converting everything over then loosing fuel economy.

LightningGSX
05-28-2004, 04:12 AM
No not really, E85 is alot cheaper, even cheaper than 87 octane unleaded.And it comes from Minnesota farmers, not some foreign oil cartel.

Jakey
05-28-2004, 08:52 AM
Here's an interesting thread on Tuners about using ethanol for some reference: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread...ghlight=Ethanol (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62198&highlight=Ethanol)

JET
05-28-2004, 08:52 AM
E85 is normally $.40 cheaper than 92. If you put in 12 gallons that is about $5.00 a fill up. It wouldn't take too long to pay itself off. Not to mention you could run 28 - 30 psi EVERY DAY!!

Jakey
05-28-2004, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by LightningGSX@May 28 2004, 03:12 AM
.....And it comes from Minnesota farmers, not some foreign oil cartel.
Hell Yeah!!! :banana: :banana:

JET
05-28-2004, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Jakey@May 28 2004, 06:52 AM
Here's an interesting thread on Tuners about using ethanol for some reference: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread...ghlight=Ethanol (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62198&highlight=Ethanol)
Ahhh, yes! The battle between me an MNGSX! I had to learn him a little :D Too bad I wasn't able to stay involved in the thread. There are some more things that we were still arguing about. There are some good facts in there though (don't believe all of his though).

Jakey
05-28-2004, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by JET+May 28 2004, 07:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JET @ May 28 2004, 07:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jakey@May 28 2004, 06:52 AM
Here's an interesting thread on Tuners about using ethanol for some reference: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread...ghlight=Ethanol (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62198&highlight=Ethanol)
Ahhh, yes! The battle between me an MNGSX! I had to learn him a little :D Too bad I wasn't able to stay involved in the thread. There are some more things that we were still arguing about. There are some good facts in there though (don't believe all of his though). [/b][/quote]
I thought you might like that. ;)