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mlomker
06-08-2010, 10:46 AM
What does an oil pump cost to purchase and install? If it isn't enough to keep you from eating then I'd buy one and move on. There's nobody on this forum that hasn't had surprise expenses related to their car.

There's a reason I'm driving the `94 Plymouth right now.

Murlo26
06-08-2010, 10:50 AM
What does an oil pump cost to purchase and install? If it isn't enough to keep you from eating then I'd buy one and move on. There's nobody on this forum that hasn't had surprise expenses related to their car.

There's a reason I'm driving the `94 Plymouth right now.

Surprises, i haven't had one yet...


We aren't flaming you OP fyi, just saying that things like this happen in the automotive world. I still don't know how everything went down, but it seems like there was some miss communication along the way.

What you described is exactly the final reason for me going with a single shop for my motor build, because frankly i didn't want to have one build it and one tune it and then a blame game to follow if something went wrong.

v8klla
06-08-2010, 11:15 AM
This should have been in the good guy/bad guy section.

Anyways, I had a similar situation with MAP last year with a transmission I bought from them, the car only turned the front wheels after installation, then the blame game ensued. No discount, refund, or return because it was a used part that "worked perfectly" when it left their shop and it was "impossible" for them to warranty used parts. Buying a part that never worked in the first place, then getting refused a refund, discount, or return will leave anyone with a pretty sour taste in their mouth.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't their an issue with either missing dowel pins or shifter bushings that was causing your problem? Either way, that transmission was taken from a perfectly running car just days before, and again we had no hand in the installation of the part, what would you suggest to be the proper course of action?

I bought a oil feed line for my talon. I got it very quick I was happy at first. So I went out to the garage to install the line. The oil line was to short and the fittings were wrong. So I returned the line thinking that they could get me the correct line just a fast they got me the wrong one. It took about 3 to 4 weeks. They said it wasn't there problem. It is there problem if you are sell parts that you are getting for another company you should make sure the shit is right.

I simply don't believe that anyone here said "It's not our problem" that's just not how we do business. However, we do heavily rely on other companies in some scenarios like this, if there was a backorder or something out of our control I don't know what else we could have done to rectify the situation quicker for you :( We would have happily refunded you in full so that you could have sourced the line elsewhere if you desired...

goodhart
06-08-2010, 11:31 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't their an issue with either missing dowel pins or shifter bushings that was causing your problem? Either way, that transmission was taken from a perfectly running car just days before, and again we had no hand in the installation of the part, what would you suggest to be the proper course of action?


Shifter bushings which were replaced by Alex and the car still failed to turn the rear wheels. Not sure what either dowel pins or bushings have to do with making wheels turn, but whatever. The car DID run perfectly, just only turned the front wheels.

I also drove the car down there, then was told it was not drivable for the way home. Not sure why that was either. That was also the second time I made time out of my schedule,the first was the time I had a pickup time arranged, only to see the car in pieces in the back when I got there and not one mechanic in sight.

As far as the proper course of action, make me an offer. :)

v8klla
06-08-2010, 12:51 PM
What I meant is that the car the transmission came from worked perfectly, rear wheels as well. With that said, being that we didn't perform the installation how do you expect me to warrant a used part that was sold in perfect working order as witnessed by several of my staff (the car in question is my fiance's cousins car that she had been driving for months prior). We didn't perform the installation, we later found errors with your installation as outlined above, and something wasn't working properly when the car made its way back to us. I don't know what happened, and I'm not willing to make any assumptions. All I know for sure is that I sold you a transmission that was in perfect working order and we didn't perform the work.

goodhart
06-08-2010, 01:00 PM
What I meant is that the car the transmission came from worked perfectly, rear wheels as well. With that said, being that we didn't perform the installation how do you expect me to warrant a used part that was sold in perfect working order as witnessed by several of my staff (the car in question is my fiance's cousins car that she had been driving for months prior). We didn't perform the installation, we later found errors with your installation as outlined above, and something wasn't working properly when the car made its way back to us. I don't know what happened, and I'm not willing to make any assumptions. All I know for sure is that I sold you a transmission that was in perfect working order and we didn't perform the work.


Since when are IN THE CAR shifter bushings part of a transmission install? Those are the only thing that your shop replaced. It had nothing to do with any under the hood bushings or any linkage. The previous transmission never had an issue with any bushings, and the transmission after the one you sold me worked just fine also.

How are you sure that the transmission was in perfect working order anyways? Did you take it apart and inspect the internals? Did you put the car on jackstands and run the car through first gear to make sure all four wheels spun and not just the fronts? It was advertised to me as having a welded center diff, so as far as I know, that means all four wheels should turn when on jack stands correct?

v8klla
06-08-2010, 01:10 PM
I never said anything about the shift bushings having to do with the issue, I was merely pointing out errors with the install that we found upon inspection. As I outlined before the car was driven for many months before it was torn down, that includes snow, rain, etc. This isn't just a random transmission we picked up as I outlined above, which I why I am so adamant that the AWD system was in proper working order when we took the car apart.

goodhart
06-08-2010, 01:12 PM
Ok, so what exactly were these "installation errors" anyways? I have done a few transmission swaps now, and we did nothing different than what we did with this one. And yes, we did install the rear bolt that most people leave out.

v8klla
06-08-2010, 01:16 PM
I believe it was missing dowel pins, and then whatever transpired with the shifter bushings. It was over a year ago now so its hard for me to remember specifics.

goodhart
06-08-2010, 01:23 PM
I was told that the transmission was not removed, how exactly could you tell if the dowel pins were there or not if the transmission was never removed?