I'll Probably be banned for this again....

[cmspaz]

There is shit hidden within that bill that nobody has even found yet I'm sure.
No doubt.

Whenever they don't release it publicly before the vote, there's always shit nobody wants in there.

[Kracka]

Agreed. They are elected officials. The public should be 100% informed on what they are voting on (so should they for that matter). My guess is a lot of people aren't reelected b/c of their YES vote on this bill.

[Matt D.]

I just hate the fact that you HAVE to carry health insurance now. Not, if you want to, but you HAVE to. And to a certain arbitrary level set by the government. Somehow the government knows my body better than me. And if you don't have it, you will be fined? That's rediculous! I've carried insurance ever since I can remember. And I've used all of about 4 times in my life!! Why should I have to pay for everyone else that goes in for a sniffle?

Just because they say it's a "health care overhaul" doesn't make it good.
It's not just that, it's the fact that the government is forcing the people to buy a commercial product. They are forcing us to spend our money on something whether we like it or not.

Of course, I'm sure Tom will have something to say about how this is good for us.

[MATCHBX]

It's not just that, it's the fact that the government is forcing the people to buy a commercial product. They are forcing us to spend our money on something whether we like it or not.

Of course, I'm sure Tom will have something to say about how this is good for us.

Exactly!! They were mentioning this a while back and someone brought up the fact that they mandate car insurance for cars. Well there is an easy way to opt out of car insurance, don't own a car! We can't opt out of having health insurance because in order to do that, we have to be dead.

I've read some of the original bill. And they intentionally made it very long and full of legal ease to make sure people would not finish reading it. There is a lot of added little extras in there that even the people shouting how much they want this bill passed would scream, WTF!!!

I haven't looked around lately to see if there is anything out there about the new bill. But why pass something and then say that we have to "tweak" it right afterwards? Just to say "we got it passed"? That's stupid. Now that it's passed, they can stall all the "fixes" as long as they want because it is now "law of the land". If it's so important, take the time to get it right first and then present it to the country and see how they feel about it. Not just ram through any piece of legislation and say it needs to get done now because if not now, when. Take the time to get it right!!

Too many people with "entitlement" issues. They feel they are entitled to what everyone else that works hard and makes something of themselves have, but don't need to do anything for it.

[Kracka]

Multi-vitamins and fruit are good for me too. When is the government going to start force-feeding us?

[1QUICK4]

Too many people with "entitlement" issues. They feel they are entitled to what everyone else that works hard and makes something of themselves have, but don't need to do anything for it.

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[tpunx99GSX]

The government makes you carry Auto Insurance dont they?

[Kracka]

They were mentioning this a while back and someone brought up the fact that they mandate car insurance for cars. Well there is an easy way to opt out of car insurance, don't own a car! We can't opt out of having health insurance because in order to do that, we have to be dead.
reading > Tom

[Matt D.]

The government makes you carry Auto Insurance dont they?
Are you serious? It's a state by state law, not a federal government mandate. And they don't tell you who you can or can be insured by, or to what level, just so much as you have it. And it's not just to protect you (which is what health care is for, right?) but to protect anything and anyone else.

[Kracka]

You must also remember that the government doesn't require people to keep auto insurance coverage on their car or person, only to cover damage to another person's car or well-being.