View Full Version : Blown head gasket caused some damaged parts
asshanson
06-01-2009, 01:43 PM
Sucks to hear about this, hope the issue is resolved soon.
First thing he said was that the tune that jordan did caused the headgasket to go, he told me there must have been to much timing.
Wow, did he have actual knowledge of the tune that Jordan did, or did he just guess? I've not heard many good things about the way RS does business.
v8klla
06-01-2009, 03:27 PM
I'm very sorry to hear about your issues Mike, you know we're here to help just let me know which route you decide to go. In regards to the tune total ignition timing was at 11 degrees at 7500 rpm's with no knock, I'm fairly certain something else is to blame ;)
Matt D.
06-01-2009, 03:53 PM
First thing he said was that the tune that jordan did caused the headgasket to go, he told me there must have been to much timing. There was peak timing of 10, im on e-85. Then when I told him I had bent valves,the valve seals were the incorrect ones, and the surface of the head was poorly machined he told me to contact the machine shop that did the head in the first place.
To be honest, this isn't the first time Ron has blamed something bad like this one someone or something else. Last year there was a thread on MNSC about someone's car getting messed up by RS and Ron not wanting to do anything about it until he posted about it on MNSC, and also this thread (http://www.mnsportcompacts.net/forum/showthread.php?t=50315) of him selling a Type R head which had GSR cams in it.
I would expect Ron to be more proactive when it comes to taking care of his customers. Too many times have I heard and seen him taking steps backward in order to take care of issues that slipped through his fingers and ended up biting him in the ass later on.
There have also been multiple instances of Ron setting up deals for people to buy things from him, then he goes and sells the stuff out from under people because he felt his buddies needed it more. Kracka experienced that first hand.
scheides
06-01-2009, 04:03 PM
11 degrees at 7500, wtf, that is like nothing. What was it at peak torque?
Still, even if the tune was overly aggressive the poor machined surface of the head and that combover-tech headgasket surely led to the failure. I'm shocked to be honest, I don't know what to say. Ron offers no warranty on this? I'd be flying and stabbing, ninja style.
Seriously sorry to hear this man :(
Halon
06-01-2009, 04:28 PM
Sorry to hear.
I'm a believer that if you're going to have a fun car that you mod, to have a 2nd reliable DD. So I'm glad to hear you're thinking about going that route.
Still sucks to hear the hastle you're going through. If you need any help with anything, gimme a shout and if I'm available I'd be glad to help out.
mike55112
06-01-2009, 05:22 PM
Thanks guys, ya I am getting prices right now for all the parts I need and I should have the head back by the end of the week, I just need to wait on getting the L19 studs due to lack of cash. I knew something was up when I started to make less and less power on the 37r setup. All in all I think that once I get my car back up and running it will be done right with a properly machined head and 5 angle valve job with brand new exhaust valves. I will be shooting for 500 tq on map's dyno
scheides
06-01-2009, 06:20 PM
so, despite the questionable work, can the head be fixed?
mike55112
06-01-2009, 06:22 PM
so, despite the questionable work, can the head be fixed?
Ya the head is fine, I am ordering the exhaust valves tomorrow.
niterydr
06-02-2009, 07:53 AM
Ron giving tuning advise? LMAO. Thanks for making my day.
Sucks to hear about the poorly reworked head. At least you now know the root of the problem and can address it properly.
Kracka
06-02-2009, 08:16 AM
at least you now know the root of the problem
RS?
Have you asked Ron for any sort of warranty coverage? As a shop, he should be responsible for the parts he is selling. If its the machine shop's fault, then he should go to them since he is the one who had the work performed. If its assembly error, then he is at fault. My guess, its a combination of both.
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