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Dundars
02-24-2009, 02:57 PM
Obama wants to get the census moved under the White House, never before has a president tried to do this.

If they have that much power over it they can easily manipulate the next election and the electoral states...

Shane@DBPerformance
02-24-2009, 02:58 PM
RLFebo, you sound like a socialist commie!

Maybe you should move to China where any protest isn't allowed, the government only tells you whatever they think you should know, getting rich by any means possible due to no regulations(including poisoning babies) is fine, the government has total control and can do whatever it wants or change the laws to fit it current needs, torture is fine, and only religions the gov likes are allowed. Oh wait, that's the current GOP's dream government.

Febo
02-24-2009, 03:10 PM
So Im a socialist commie because I beleive moderation as opposed to make 30 million a year and let the workers under you starve? Hmmm, yeah I guess I should move to china.

I guess I just dont understand you extreme conservatives. Hell I just dont understand people in general anymore. I guess if your happy watching the rich get richer while you stay the same or get poorer then I guess Im the backwards one. Here I thought the american dream was to watch the rich get richer, and then catch up to the bastards and take their money in a coporate takeover.

Dundars
02-24-2009, 03:17 PM
If we would of done more tax cuts for all classes that would of helped a whole hell of a lot more then just spending more money at one time than ever in the US history.

But no, everyone is going to be getting an extra 13 bucks a week back from the government with these "tax cuts". Who's lining up to get flat screens? LOL!

People need to realize that the rich create a lot of jobs believe it or not.

This bill was equal to giving every person in the WHOLE WORD a check for 1,300, or paying off of 90% of the US mortgages, exactly what caused all of this. But no, we will just spend it on 20 million for a rat for Liberal Nancy Palocis state, etc etc etc.

3 Republics total in both houses voted for this bill.

Edit - 92.5% of people pay their mortgages on time, we are just bailing out the 7-8% of irresponsible people and irresponsible banks that were forced into making those risky mortgages by Clinton. Most of those same people are driving new cars and what not. People need to realize nothing is going to last forever and have to live within their means in case they happen to lose their job.

1QUICK4
02-24-2009, 03:27 PM
The president doesnt generally slip in ear marks into the bill, if he even writes the bill. Its Congress and the Senate who add and retract stuff from a proposed bill. Obama says, I want 700 billion used for economic stimulus. I want it to go here, here, and here, and at these times, in this way. Here you go Senate. Then the Senate says, No, no, yes, yes, no, lets throw in this earmark for my babies mama's state so she can get a job, then congress gets it and does the same. Why wont people ever pin the blame on where it deserves to be pinned.

Funny I didn't see any democrats sparing Bush.

Nope it's all his fault because he's a Nazi dictator. The current situation is all his fault and none of the blame lays on the dems.

Both sides are crooks and have thier own agendas in mind. They care nothing for the average citizen

Shane@DBPerformance
02-24-2009, 03:31 PM
Edit - 92.5% of people pay their mortgages on time, we are just bailing out the 7-8% of irresponsible people and irresponsible banks that were forced into making those risky mortgages by Clinton.

Fuck yea. I saw old Bill down at Wells Fargo with a mortgage broker in a figure four leglock making him give a loan on a McMansion to some day trader. It had nothing to do with Phil Gram or banks forcing home appraisers to over value houses on purpose or somebodys own ignorance/need to keep up with the Jones'.

Febo
02-24-2009, 03:34 PM
Ill agree on that last statement 1Quick4, they dont care about us. And I was never one to say Bush was a nazi, just a dumbass who didnt beleive in constitutional rights. Thats all.

and Dundars
Spend it on 20 million for rats for pelosi, or 50 million for Republican Sens. Orrin Hatch and Robert Bennett of utah. Its all covered under the same monies. And I hope your joking about the flat screens. Plus, who has a defaulted mortgage that you know, who has been forclosed on, and still drives a new car that they have a loan on? I know too many that dont. And the ones that do made sure not to lose their car. You can lose your house and live in an apartment, you cant lose your car. Cars arent a luxury anymore, they are a necessity.

Febo
02-24-2009, 03:36 PM
fuck yea. I saw old bill down at wells fargo with a mortgage broker in a figure four leglock making him give a loan on a mcmansion to some day trader. It had nothing to do with phil gram or banks forcing home appraisers to over value houses on purpose or somebodys own ignorance/need to keep up with the jones'.

roflmao!

Dundars
02-24-2009, 03:46 PM
RLfebo-

I have a close friend whose parents were just foreclosed on, they split up because of it. They both drive new/newer cars and are in new houses with big mortgages already.

Febo
02-24-2009, 03:53 PM
What do you define as new/newer cars? Do they make payments on them? And how did they each manage to get a mortgage already, and what do you call a big mortgage, especially since you have to hold that up to what they were paying.