SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!

[iroc_g]

Green Bay (I know, I know....)

The original idea was to use my car with the new setup I am currently putting together. However, Im not sure that is going to be ready in time. They want to do this before spring, as they obviously don't have nearly the free time then that they do in the winter. So, we are thinking about finding annother person to use for the dyno donkey. None of this is decided yet, but were trying to work everything out.

We plan to the intakes that did the best on the flow bench. Although it would be interesting to test all, thats a lot of passes on somebody's car. Also, we need to make sure that we can get our hands on whatever manifolds are to be tested.

[Halon]

Cool, good luck with it all.

[Kracka]

Hasn't exactly that been done a few years back?
Yup, but the industry is different now; profit margins are down among many other things. MAP was nice enough to donate a few hours of dyno time to me for a test I'm doing for the EvoM community (more info on this next week) but I doubt any vendor who didn't stand to profit from the test (or potential sales resulting from the test) would be willing to donate a day (or days) of dyno usage. If Beyond Redline is willing to the host the test I see no reason why their dyno can't be used in a fair, supervised, manner. No matter who hosts it there will be some nitpicker who finds a reason why the test was skewed or unfair if their favorite part didn't perform as well as they expected it to.

[iroc_g]

Kracka: Im honored.

[Swifty1638]

lol..made it into a signature!!!

-A. Swift

[niterydr]

The plan we have been discussing is to use their facility and dyno, but somebody's car that they do not know, or have any association with. The manifolds would be tested back to back.

Also, we plan to tune the car with each manifold. Obviously, if one manifold allows the engine to breathe better, it will require more fuel. As a rough plan, tune each car to a set AFR, and set timing as high as possible without knock.

Pending the date of the testing, I'd be willing to tune each setup as I am no longer in a shop. I would imagine the best way to benefit from this testing would be to have a car with monitoring equipment, a competent tuner, and a standalone with someone that knows how to use it properly.

What dyno equipment does beyond redline have?

I would be willing to sit in each car and not even look at the engine bay so I have no clue which manifold is which (I'd rather not know honestly).

[turbotalon1g]

They got that covered.

[niterydr]

They got that covered.

Sweet, well I can't wait to see the results :news:

[hippiekiller]

Beyond Redline has a good reputation with the WiDSM.org guys it seems. No doubt they would do a good job over there. Bit of a hike to take the manifolds, but not too bad. It will be interesting to see how the manifolds perform on an actual car as apposed to flow bench.

Only thing I can say about which mani's to test is this. Rather than just doing the ones that performed the best on the flow bench it may be wise to also do the most popular ones. How many cars are out there with a magnus for example?

[turbotalon1g]

I think Beyond redline did a good test somewhat last time, they used cars with diff setups to try and cover the HP ranges the only thing was the tunes from manifolds were way different at least on A/F so i dont think that was fair.