bad idea or terrible idea?

[niterydr]

CORRECT! Oh, wait his car probably has an oil filter. lol. nvm.

Oil filters can fill up quickly with crap.

[iceminion]

I highly doubt that a handfull of metal flakes would clog a napa gold, they have alot more filtering materal then stock filters....which by themselves is overkill.

car idled to operating temp this morning, still has a CEL

[niterydr]

I highly doubt that a handfull of metal flakes would clog a napa gold, they have alot more filtering materal then stock filters....which by themselves is overkill.

car idled to operating temp this morning, still has a CEL


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Good to hear it is running okay, well at least idling. I was mearly stating why the filters are a good idea to be changed out. But I guess with your vast knowledge base you knew that.

Sorry for the inconvience I have caused you o great one.

[joesushi]

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Good to hear it is running okay, well at least idling. I was mearly stating why the filters are a good idea to be changed out. But I guess with your vast knowledge base you knew that.

Sorry for the inconvience I have caused you o great one.


Why it would be so important to change the oil filter in the first place, IF the engine is spitting up enough metal shavings(from the bearings) to clog the filter lol. I guess if you didn't hear any noise and kept driving, managing not to SEIZE the crank, there would be enough to clog the filter and the bypass would open. The oil would then start to distribute the metal to the cams and lifters.

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

Let's see.... $25 for a filter and oil, or $200 to rebuild a motor on the cheap end... Choice seems obvious to me...

[joesushi]

I think you missed what I was getting at. When bearings go out enough to clog a filter there will be a horrendous noise way before the filter is compromised, right? At that point a rebuild is required. At that point you are telling me to do an oil change?

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

I'm saying the oil change could have drastically reduced the chances you'll have to rebuild.

[iceminion]

Ok, kevin, what you are saying is:

Crap in oil = Change oil, or your engine will be ruined from the chunks

now that might seem ok to the n00b mechanic, i must insist that

crap in oil = GREAT

under the CONTEXT that i just put this engine together in a messy garage with messy parts.

remember all of the oil that gets pumped to the bearings/head/squirters goes through a oil filter.

Yes, oil filters have bypass valves, but thats only under extreme circumstances.

Chunks of crap in oil does not = oil change
chunks of crap = keep driving, all of your oil has not cycled through your filter yet.

And to those who think that filters get clogged....um....no, completely incorrect, under the context of < 10,000 miles on the oil change

Eventually the carbon content of the oil increases and the lubrication properties break down to the point of not being safe for the bearings....

But again, that is around 10,000 miles

BTW: I drove it around the block tonight, lots of smoke, no more flakes in oil.

[jhaan_dude]

i bet if you change the oil everyone will shut up about it....

[niterydr]

Oil cycles thru the engine pretty quickly guys, but what would I know...

Whatever. I am sure it will turn out great like every other project has.