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Kracka
07-03-2008, 02:09 PM
Hahaha tinfoil hats!

You do realize we have a democratic senate, and when it comes down to it, they have more power than the president, right?

A//// Guy
07-03-2008, 02:13 PM
I dont think they know that. Tin foil hats for everyone!

bertrenolds5
07-03-2008, 02:17 PM
If clinton caught osama like he should have back in the 90s, we wouldnt be having this war. :D

As far as McCain being like Bush, is that only because he wants to finish the war and not just leave the Iraqis hangin? You really think its a good idea for us to just drop and leave Iraq? I do think it will take a long time for Iraq to reform and change its ways, but we need to atleast guide their new government so it doesnt fall apart again.

HA! If the CIA wasn't involved in giving millions of dollars and training to the Afghanis who have now become al qaeda to fight the soviets in the first place then none of this would have happened! People, our govt. is responsible for everything that is now happening, wakeup! Why were we even fighting the soviets?

And leaving iraq would be stupid! were still in korea.

Kracka
07-03-2008, 02:21 PM
Why were we even fighting the soviets?

OMG, please tell me you're joking.

bertrenolds5
07-03-2008, 02:23 PM
Hahaha tinfoil hats!

You do realize we have a democratic senate, and when it comes down to it, they have more power than the president, right?

A democratic senate that was given evidence that was altered, like I said. Come on, everyone was pressured into going to war, I think 1 person said no to war in the senate. Ah, and the president can declare a state of emergency and go to war without senate approval, what are they gonna do once the pres has already dropped bombs, pull out?

And I am not making up the evidence alteration, I watched a documentary on history channel about all of this.

Kracka
07-03-2008, 02:24 PM
HA! If the CIA wasn't involved in giving millions of dollars and training to the Afghanis who have now become al qaeda to fight the soviets in the first place then none of this would have happened!

Ever been stabbed in the back by a "friend"? Truth of the matter is you have to trust someone and sometimes you get screwed. At the time it was the best option available b/c we were trying to prevent the spread of communism.

bertrenolds5
07-03-2008, 02:25 PM
I am not joking, CIA gave millions to afganis to fight russia, then we left them hanging, they got pissed and now we are dealing with the aftermath of our decisions.

bertrenolds5
07-03-2008, 02:28 PM
And capitolism is better? I'm not a commie but capitolism doesn't have all the answers either.

Kracka
07-03-2008, 02:30 PM
I am not joking, CIA gave millions to afganis to fight russia, then we left them hanging, they got pissed and now we are dealing with the aftermath of our decisions.

Welcome to reality! There are consequences, good and bad, no matter what actions are taken. Decisions are only as good as the information we have to make them and sometimes they end up being wrong. Overall, I thanks the government and military for what it has done to make this country a better place. Had they not, you wouldn't have the freedom to voice your opinions.

Kracka
07-03-2008, 02:30 PM
And capitolism is better? I'm not a commie but capitolism doesn't have all the answers either.

Nothing has all the answers. Trade-offs are a part of life.