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Matt D.
06-27-2008, 06:32 AM
Actually i just did a search on google for worst president in history and if you notice at least the first 20 links all have GWB in the article.
Dude... Quit using Google to hold up your end of this discussion. I've at least shown links with credible sources. All you do is say "Google said so" and post links to Rolling Stone.

A//// Guy
06-27-2008, 08:29 AM
If clinton caught osama like he should have back in the 90s, we wouldnt be having this war. :D

As far as McCain being like Bush, is that only because he wants to finish the war and not just leave the Iraqis hangin? You really think its a good idea for us to just drop and leave Iraq? I do think it will take a long time for Iraq to reform and change its ways, but we need to atleast guide their new government so it doesnt fall apart again.

asshanson
06-27-2008, 10:43 AM
I agree with Tom on one part, there is huge potential in solar power. Too bad we don't have near the technology to use hardly any of it, solar panels are so inefficient it's not worth it at this point. So until we have a better way to use solar, I'm going with nuclear.

And George Bush will be linked on several sites right now because he's the current president. Wait 50 years and do the same search, you'll probably get the current president again, just by the way search engines work, and that there are always large numbers of people who dislike the president.

tpunx99GSX
06-27-2008, 11:04 AM
If clinton caught osama like he should have back in the 90s, we wouldnt be having this war. :D
This war was never about Osama, please educate yourself.


As far as McCain being like Bush, is that only because he wants to finish the war and not just leave the Iraqis hangin? You really think its a good idea for us to just drop and leave Iraq? I do think it will take a long time for Iraq to reform and change its ways, but we need to atleast guide their new government so it doesnt fall apart again.

McCain is a lot like Bush for many reasons:
- Policy on iraq: we need to at least start the process of getting out of iraq instead of murdering their people for generations more. When the British were on US soil it took an american revolution to kick them off. Is that what we are waiting for with iraq?
- Economics: He has stated that he has no expirence and no answers to our failing economy.
- Public Speaking: He freezes and mumbles just like Bush every time someone gives him a simple question, or a heckler heckles away at him. Except he has often been called a hot head, swearing at other senators, citizens and leaders. (from ABC News).
I can keep going but im busy at work.

Matt D.
06-27-2008, 11:20 AM
McCain is a lot like Bush for many reasons:
- Policy on iraq: we need to at least start the process of getting out of iraq instead of murdering their people for generations more. When the British were on US soil it took an american revolution to kick them off. Is that what we are waiting for with iraq?
Did you just compare our occupancy of Iraq to the American Revolution? :rollinglaugh: One is an ill-fated effort against terrorism, the other was the thirteen colonies fighting against Great Britain for independence because of laws and taxes being imposed on them. Ever heard of the Declaration of Independence? Get a clue.

A//// Guy
06-27-2008, 11:21 AM
He has similar views because hes running under the republican party... Alot of his views are quite different than Bush though, thats why at first he didnt know if he was going to run under the Republican party.

So please list the reasons Obama is better than McCain please.

And the war was/is about terrorism. Osama and Iraq fall under that category. I seriously believe there were WMD, but they were sent to other countries like Syria before we got over there. Think what you want, and Ill think what I want.

The world is a better place without Saddam, you cant deny that.

Halon
06-27-2008, 12:15 PM
T nuclear power plants are only good for 30 years. then they must be decommissioned and cannot be reused

They can reapply for a new operating license and they can continue producing energy.

tpunx99GSX
06-27-2008, 08:29 PM
And the war was/is about terrorism. Osama and Iraq fall under that category. I seriously believe there were WMD, but they were sent to other countries like Syria before we got over there. Think what you want, and Ill think what I want.

The world is a better place without Saddam, you cant deny that.

I agree the world is a better place without Saddam, BUT SADDAM IS DEAD!!!
If you truly believe we were there for WMDs and to kill terrorists then why are we not in Zimbabwe or in Darfur what the US calls GENOCIDE!! Fuck your belief we are in Iraq to kill terrorists. We went there to protect the oil! If we went there for humanitarianism then there were places elsewhere which deserved our help much more. If we would have declared war on Sudans government Bush's approval rating would be through the roof, hell i think i would even be supportive of his efforts.

Matt D.
06-27-2008, 10:10 PM
Once again you start with the conspiracy theories. Good show, Tom. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. We're in the here and now, not the past. This isn't about Bush and his fucked up policies.

bertrenolds5
07-03-2008, 01:58 PM
Who is the flip-floper now straight talking biatch. If republicans win this comming election our govt. is a sham!

A republican is a republican, bush is part of the same party as mccain, how would electing mccain be any different then electing bush for 4 more years?

And the WMD's were never found. It was also proven that intelligence was altered/created to make it look like their were WMD's in Iraq so we could go to war to make Cheney and Halliburton billions of dollars. Bush's administration can be considered terrorists themselves, they caused the deaths of and estimated hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians in their quest for the almighty dollar.