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tpunx99GSX
06-26-2008, 06:24 PM
Risks must be taken in order for our society to SURVIVE and continue growing as we know it. Airplanes, cars, trains, and boats crash everyday killing hundreds; does that mean we should all lock ourselves in the basement and refuse progression?
What im saying is there are alternate forms of energy that must be explored that can easily power our society with no harmful effects to our envoirnment or people.
Kracka
06-26-2008, 06:24 PM
What i dont understand is how people that are planning on voting McCain dont see the simularities between Bush and Him. And if you actually think bush is a good president, next time im in town your getting a swift slap upside the head.
He may not be the greatest president ever, but at least he isn't John Kerry!
Kracka
06-26-2008, 06:25 PM
What im saying is there are alternate forms of energy that must be explored that can easily power our society with no harmful effects to our envoirnment or people.
Do you have any idea how many huge solar/wind fields it would take to create the same amount of power as one nuclear plant?
tpunx99GSX
06-26-2008, 06:29 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/01/AR2006120101509.html
tpunx99GSX
06-26-2008, 06:33 PM
Do you have any idea how many huge solar/wind fields it would take to create the same amount of power as one nuclear plant?
Currently yes you are correct it would take a lot. but with the advancement of technology, more Green solutions such as wind and solor are going to become a great contender to Nuclear energy.
Please read this and it will clue you in.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2006/682/7930
http://www.naturestudy.org/pdf/SolarNuclearWindPower.pdf
"The estimated recoverable energy from solar energy is about 1,000 times the present human global energy consumption of 10TW per year. Ten weeks of solar energy is roughly equivalent to the energy stored in all known reserves of coal, oil and natural gas on earth. Solor energy is absorbed at Earths surface at an average rate of 120,000 TW, which is 10,000 times the global demand for energy"
This was quoted from the PDF link. It was produced in 2001. Imagine how much more efficient energy production is now. Without the need to decommission nuclear plants and create the radioactive waste. As well as its much more cost efficient.
mdost03
06-26-2008, 06:33 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/01/AR2006120101509.html
Why are we talking about Bush?
tpunx99GSX
06-26-2008, 06:36 PM
He may not be the greatest president ever, but at least he isn't John Kerry!
and speaking of john kerry, The original videos actually remind me a lot of what the republicans did when he was labled as a flip flopper. Maybe the dems should start passing out flip flops at the McCain speeches. LOL
Halon
06-26-2008, 08:25 PM
Yes there are other energy options that we should pursue as well. The cleaner and more efficiently we can create energy, the better. But we need more power RIGHT NOW. And in my opinion, the best option out there RIGHT NOW, is nuclear fission plants. Nuclear plants give off no emissions. The only waste they produce are spent fuel rods, which are enclosed in a thick lead capsule called a cask, welded, then placed into a concrete casing. These things are tough as shit, and you can stand right next to them and receive squat for radiation. Now bury those things deep under ground in the middle of nowhere on federal land. Is this ideal, of course not. But NOTHING is. There's a give and take on everything. And right now, today, I think it is the best option there is. My company has a brand new design that is approved and already ordered by 2 US plants that I know of, and quite a few over in China.
Matt D.
06-26-2008, 09:39 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history
Wait a second... Did you just link to Rolling Stone? You just threw all of your credibility out the window.
I have a tin foil hat waiting for you when you return to Minnesota.
tpunx99GSX
06-26-2008, 10:16 PM
Actually i just did a search on google for worst president in history and if you notice at least the first 20 links all have GWB in the article.
The waste is not only in the rods but the plant itself. If you read the PDF Article as well as common fact, you will know that the nuclear power plants are only good for 30 years. then they must be decommissioned and cannot be reused, they are sealed and everything that was used in the plant is considered waste.
Wind and Solar can be a energy source for RIGHT NOW. And is actually used here in southern california by our main power company. If you read the pdf article you would realise that solar power is more effeciant and cost effective then nuclear, with no effect to us or the environment. And provides Much more power then the US actually uses.
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