Which cams?

[blageo23]

This is going on my car...
Built 2.4l
Stock Head
Magnus intake mani
20G turbo
FMIC
(that should be all you need to know)
Im thinking about going with HKS 280 cams. Is there any other cams that would be good for my car? Also what are the pros and cons of the cams you suggest. Will I need springs and retainers for them? Thanks in advance.
Mike

[Kracka]

HKS is always one of the best cam choices for a DSM, and their 280-grind should work well on a 2.4.

[Super Bleeder!!]

Man there are so many cams out nowadays. FP sells some stroker specific grinds, some of which require stiffer springs.

BC sells some giant 288s but they are over .450 lift so you may need some non-stock valve seals to clear that.

HKS is good, and their centerlines always seem to be right where they should so they dont NEED to be degreed.

[Jakey]

I don't know shit about how to truly spec a set of cams for a car, however, it doesn't take much reading across various forums to learn that with all these cams out there, the spring and retainer choice is absolutely critical.

[JET]

Spring and retainer choice is overrated on a 2.4, if you aren't going much over 8k rpm. I run crower single springs on my crower 415's with well over .500" of lift without a problem. I would say 280's are the minimum you should go. If you plan on going to a bigger turbo any time, then I would go bigger. I would probably look at the FP3 cams or BC 288's. Big cams for a 2.0 become much more mild in a 2.4.

[blageo23]

Are BC cams any good? I swear I heard bad things about them.

[Super Bleeder!!]

Crower 415: 288/288 advertised duration; 0.425"/0.416" lift;

BC 288: 288/288 ; 0.468"/0.478"

stock 248/248 ; 0.349"/0.350"

HKS 280 280/280 0.425/0.401

FP cams w/cards (http://store.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=FPCamExh&Category_Code=)

Take those with a grain of salt, Some of those figures are multiplied by the rocker ratio and some probably are not. Keep in mind lift and overall duration are just the beginning when you really start looking into cams.

[Super Bleeder!!]

Just thought i'd throw this in cause its interesting.

Stock S2000 (F20C) cam

Dur
300°/298°

Dur@.05"
226°/222°

Lift (in)
.498"/.459"

woot time to sneak into hughes garage and steal some cams!

[Wizard]

That cam spec for the S2000 is after the VTEC solenoids have activated...

Remember, VTEC cams are in a sense....2 cams in one.

Personally, HKS have always been the cams to have. But, people have found others that are just as good if not better and cheaper.

BC cams have been fairly recent additions and seem to be everyone's fav at the moment with great power, and nothing but good things to say.

Crower (Not Brian Crower aka BC) need to stick to making NA cams as they have no idea how to make power in a turbo DSM. Not to mention lots of bad things about them like breaking. Sorry, but NO new cam should break.

Web was pretty good until they had a bad batch go thru and everyone stopped using them. They are still a good company imo.

FP cams use specs similar to the HKS and Crower grinds but offer several tweaks to make them more 'streetable' or basically more choices to get a grind that more matches your build.


There are a few others like Reed and such. But...my vote is BC, FP or HKS and at least a 272 grind, with 280 as a recc. And anything over 264 grind you will need spring/retainer upgrade. Not from the revs or rpms...but the lift of the cams will cause stock springs to bind.

Wiz

[JET]

Crower (Not Brian Crower aka BC) need to stick to making NA cams as they have no idea how to make power in a turbo DSM. Wiz

Crap, someone should have told my car it couldn't make any power because it has bad cams. I guess John's Galant doesn't make any power either.

On the 415's, I know my cam card is WAY bigger than what they advertised. John has the same cams and they did also. Do you remember what they were John? I have the card around somewhere, but the computer with the pic on crashed, so I don't have it and DSMStyle has been dumped since I posted it.