hi dsmtuners! Care to help me?

[Kracka]

We actually have had a couple huge threads in the past few weeks regarding engine and suspension setups for someone starting fresh from stock. We give our advice to those who deserve it. Since you know so much about cars and are such a guru, why are you here asking us? I don't think you're understanding the fact that it costs a lot of money to build a car capable of handling 600 hp....I'm talking handling it, which is WAY easier than actually making it. Again, for the 37th time, how much money do you have to spend?

[YiNYaNg]

We actually have had a couple huge threads in the past few weeks regarding engine and suspension setups for someone starting fresh from stock. We give our advice to those who deserve it. Since you know so much about cars and are such a guru, why are you here asking us? I don't think you're understanding the fact that it costs a lot of money to build a car capable of handling 600 hp....I'm talking handling it, which is WAY easier than actually making it. Again, for the 37th time, how much money do you have to spend?

I guess not enough http://dsmstyle.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

Im at work and can't search much right now so can you post up the link to those threads

thanks

[YiNYaNg]

if you want to go righ tot hte 600hp mark, and you dont have all the money it takes right away, start from the outside and work in. do suspension, get a built tranny, get the right turbo/manifold/exhaust/fuel system, then work your way inside, get headwork and finally get the block built. Once you have everything, then turn up the boost, tune it and you're there.

I was thinking the same thing too

[Bode]

If I were you I would start with a very well and heavily built 6 bolt engine, and as much as you don’t like it, you are going to have to get new springs, valves, cams; well lets just say you will need a heavily built head as well. Also as the members were saying, you are going to need a big big turbo, big injectors, big money, some type of crazy fuel setup, DSMlink(or your choice of management),clutch, flywheel, stiff ass suspention, and some other things I am forgetting. Then when you get the whole thing set up in you car and the engine and clutch is all broken in, you will probably launch it, then find out you need new axles, built transmition, and some big ass tires(with 600hp, even all wheel drive spin out), getting to 600hp is allot of work, time, education, and most of all money, and if you are looking to get 600hp, you might as well buy a car with 600hp. You will probably end up spending less money that way. Either way, good luck to you in you adventure to 600hp.

[sleepy2lazy]

Whether you know this site or not,
Here's a basic startup sequence guide provided by Buschur.

http://www.buschurracing.com/dsm-stage0.htm

[sleepydsm]

If you're serious about making 600 awhp, get a second car for a daily driver, like a Honda Civic that wont eat any of your money. The find a place where you can put the car for a long time while you get all your shit together. I do agree with pretty much everyone here, if you weren't such a car noob, you wouldnt have to ask whats needed for 600awhp. I understand you don't want to have to keep "re-buying" parts to get to an ultimate goal. As was already stated, there is a lot of stuff you can get right now while the car is mostly stock that you would need at the 600awhp level.

[YiNYaNg]

LOL ... you guys make it sound harder than it really is

I guess money is my only issue now. I'll just get each thing at a time

[Kracka]

LOL ... you guys make it sound harder than it really is

I guess money is my only issue now. I'll just get each thing at a time
It is very hard, very few who attempt it actually succeed.

[niterydr]

Wow this thread is entertaining.
I take it you want 600awhp on pump as well, on a dd?
If we are talking 600awhp on race gas, on a dyno dynamics dyno pm me and I'll break your heart with $$ figures.
You'll need:
Built 6 bolt shortblock (2.0 or 2.4)
67mm+ size turbocharger or a serious nitrous system
enough fuel to support the above mentioned power levels
drivetrain to support the engine
suspension to support the chassis
brakes to slow the damm thing down

I have 2 customer cars in the stable right now that are near/close to that goal, both have well over $10k in just parts invested. To do it right, to buy it all new, and to have someone install it costs money.

[AJ]

lgithweight wheels and good tires is another 2 grand. Tiger Paws can be fun to though ;) LOL