injector size fuel delivery 35r

[dsmreck]

Just wondering what injectors i should get and fuel delivery for a 35r to make around 600 @ db dyno.
I have a 255 in tank do in need an inline?

[scheides]

E85 or race gas? Uncorrected or corrected?

2G DSM I assume based on your profile?

I'd say you'll need FIC 1680's or the 2150's.

You will definitely need either a BAP on your 255 and maybe a second pump or a bigger base pump (like the Walbro 400). This is where you get to spend a lot of time researching other people's setups and then decide what you want to do, then spend money and more time making it work.

[turbotalon1g]

Message DB?

For sure twin 255s or the wally 400, I'd do a hi-z 16xx if pump or 2150 if E85.

Good luck.

[JET]

^ What he said.

[dsmreck]

damn that big? Yes i'm doing research as well. I considered a 400 pump and 1450cc injectors. Yes e85 and link v3. I really don't understand what it takes to make these bigger injectors or even high z. Why such big injectors for a 65lb/min turbo? NOOOOOOOOOB

[4seasons69]

Originally Posted by dsmreck

Just wondering what injectors i should get and fuel delivery for a 35r to make around 600 @ db dyno.

Originally Posted by dsmreck

damn that big? Yes i'm doing research as well. I considered a 400 pump and 1450cc injectors. Yes e85 and link v3. I really don't understand what it takes to make these bigger injectors or even high z. Why such big injectors for a 65lb/min turbo? NOOOOOOOOOB

Yeah if you're shooting for 600 at db that's no joke . That's a ton of power considering their dyno is very low reading. Since you're going with e85 I would just go with the 2150's and be done with it.

You will also need a second 255. Not sure if one walbro 400 would support 600 at db probably with a boost-a-pump it would.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Might need a bigger turbo.

[dsmreck]

must be tougher than I thought with a 35r. ok lets just say I want to max a 35r out? Does that change injector size? What would I need besides link to run 2150's low impedance I assume. I also want to street this car when weather permits.

[CornFed2.4]

They don't make a low impedance 2150. At least that I'm award of. But as Shane said you may need a bigger turbo to hit 600hp at DB even if you max the turbo out. Finding link right now of proven setup as yours is going to be very similar to Brads.

I think he did it with a required 255 and boost a pump but maybe I can text him so he can chime in.

Ninja edit:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20970

[dsmreck]

thats a nice build now we r texting lol. bad ass but was that a 2.0 what power did he make.

[dsmreck]

Realistically if I hit 500 or more I will shit my pants anyways, just want to do it all safe. so if 600 is over my head not bad to be ready incase of turbo swap nahhhh mean. btw thanks all keep it coming to broke for 2150's.

[scheides]

Originally Posted by dsmreck

Realistically if I hit 500 or more I will shit my pants anyways, just want to do it all safe. so if 600 is over my head not bad to be ready incase of turbo swap nahhhh mean. btw thanks all keep it coming to broke for 2150's.

600 isn't over your head its just probably not possible on a simple setup and standard 35r.

My car has made around or over 500 at DB for about 2 years now. I go through lots of underwear!

[4seasons69]

If you can't shell out for the 2150's right now you could start with 1650's and see how far you can go on those. The previous owner of my car on a gt4294 made 651awhp at db with 1650's and twin ford gt pumps(ford gt pumps are very similar to the 255). so you can take 1650's pretty far but I would still recommend 2150's.

[dsmreck]

All great info here guys. Does any of this change because its a 2.4 7bolt or no. My thinking is it doesnt change the fuel needed for the turbo. what i dont understand is how the math works. 35r is 65lb/min right? 2150 injectors 194lb/min? Again im a noob but very hungry to learn. Just need a little help to figure this out.

[4seasons69]

Originally Posted by dsmreck

All great info here guys. Does any of this change because its a 2.4 7bolt or no. My thinking is it doesnt change the fuel needed for the turbo. what i dont understand is how the math works. 35r is 65lb/min right? 2150 injectors 194lb/min? Again im a noob but very hungry to learn. Just need a little help to figure this out.

A 2.4l won't change the injectors you need. Just because your turbo is a 65lb/min turbo doesn't mean you are going to need 65lb/min injectors. Injectors are actually usually rated in cc/min or lb/hr. So if you convert 2150s to lb/hr you would have 204.8lb/hr. The size of the injectors is based on the type of fuel you are going to run and the amount of power you are going to make. E85 requires more fuel so you will need bigger injectors.

Like I said you can probably get by with some 1650s but someone can correct me if I'm wrong from my understanding the 2150s are more tuneable. You end up with better idle quality and driveability with 2150's vs 1650s. I know this is true for aem not 100 percent sure if it translates to link too.

You can try going on dsmtuners and searching. There is all kinds of good info on there

[Halon]

With that turbo, 1650's should be enough. I ran an s362 with 1600's and twin 255's on e85 at 35psi, made 541hp at DB. 1650's should be fine for that turbo setup.

[turbotalon1g]

I think you should rock a 16g setup for now and learn some more, asking if the motor is a 7 bolt in regards to fuel injector size is crazy.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Brad made almost 600, but he was spraying a lot of nitrous on top of crazy high boost levels on good E85, not E70.

[dsmreck]

turbotalon1g thanks thats exactly what i'll do. want to trade? I was asking about the hp made 2.4 vs 2.0. In my post I did say I know the turbo needs fuel regardless.

Again i'm asking questions here to learn dumb to anyone or not. Lets talk about the 1650's like halon asked I also heard the old 1600 sucked for tuning, but they have bluemax in 1650, and what about the 1750/1850 or is that an ebay joke they say fic bluemax

[turbotalon1g]

I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but paragraphs please.

I'll trade.