clutch problems

[93gtpeater]

i put a clutch in a 97 tsi fwd talon. and now i cant put it in gear when its running. but when it isnt running it shifts fine. there is no clutch pedal. its like nothing is there but once you get like an inch before the floor there some pedal. i dont know what it is. any ideas?

[EclipseGST]

Did you bleed the clutch fluid?

[311evo]

Originally Posted by EclipseGST

Did you bleed the clutch fluid?

+1 or maybe defective cylinder.

bleed it first.

[93gtpeater]

yea we bleed the clutch fluid. and the slave clyinder is brand new this spring.

[asshanson]

Have you tried using the clutch adjustment rod to bring the grab point up higher?

[brando]

if that doesn't work then you need to weld 2 nuts on the fork for the clutch rod to bring it out further. did you use a mitsu slave? if you didn't you need to get one

[EclipseGST]

Originally Posted by brando

if that doesn't work then you need to weld 2 nuts on the fork for the clutch rod to bring it out further.

Dont half ass it like this... Find the real problem instead of putting a band-aid on it.

This is the exact reason why dsm's get the name they have today and are unreliable.

Check fluid
Make sure its bled correctly
Check the adjustment rod on the pedal
Check master/slave
Make sure transmission is fully flush with block
Check clutch fork and pivot (fulcrum) ball
Check Throw out bearing

If you say there is no pedal pressure until almost on the floor it sounds like it wasnt bled properly. Either that or out of fluid, bad master or slave cylinder, or the adjustment rod is not adjusted correctly.

[sleepydsm]

Originally Posted by EclipseGST

Dont half ass it like this... Find the real problem instead of putting a band-aid on it.

This is the exact reason why dsm's get the name they have today and are unreliable.

THANKYOU

[brando]

Originally Posted by EclipseGST

Dont half ass it like this... Find the real problem instead of putting a band-aid on it.

This is the exact reason why dsm's get the name they have today and are unreliable.

Check fluid
Make sure its bled correctly
Check the adjustment rod on the pedal
Check master/slave
Make sure transmission is fully flush with block
Check clutch fork and pivot (fulcrum) ball
Check Throw out bearing

If you say there is no pedal pressure until almost on the floor it sounds like it wasnt bled properly. Either that or out of fluid, bad master or slave cylinder, or the adjustment rod is not adjusted correctly.

funny that you say this is half assing. we used all brand new mitsu parts and ran a hard line. this is what kyle at ma told us to do to fix it. and bam it works great. but yes you are correct aboput everything. you probably need to adjust your clutch peddal.

heres a link to a few good video's on how to do it

http://www.jackstransmissions.com/st...c788d3e3af317f

[EclipseGST]

Did Mitsubishi do that from the factory? It worked fine then didnt it.... What changed?

What are you "fixing"?

[brando]

when you buy a new master some aren't quite right so all you need is to get a little longer travel to move it past the check valve, thats all it is

[93gtpeater]

it went to the dealership for it.

[EclipseGST]

Originally Posted by brando

when you buy a new master some aren't quite right so all you need is to get a little longer travel to move it past the check valve, thats all it is

So get the right one... That's what they call a "defective part".

Also, the master is fully adjustable with the rod that attaches to the clutch pedal.

[brando]

no it wasnt a defective part is was in part because of the clutch we were using. kyle says he does it all the time

[93gtpeater]

when the new slave clyinder was put in it was perfect. before i put the clutch in i had to put the pedal to the floor to put it in to gear. so i thought it needed a new clutch.

[93gtpeater]

and we tried a longer rod.

[brando]

longer rod isn't the solution. the master cyl isnt pushing enough fluid thru the slave. have a buddy push the clutch in and you watch the slave. it should move 3/4 of an inch. putting a longer rod in wont really help it can acctually cause you more damage than anything. try replacing the old shitty rubber clkutch line with a solid one or steel braided line. then adjust your clutch peddal. also look at your clutch peddal assembly your clutch peddal after you release it should come flush with the brake peddal. if it doesnt then the bushing's on your peddal assembly are worn too far down also and thats a good 1/8 - 1/4 inch of travel you are loosing.

[EclipseGST]

Originally Posted by brando

longer rod isn't the solution. the master cyl isnt pushing enough fluid thru the slave. have a buddy push the clutch in and you watch the slave. it should move 3/4 of an inch. putting a longer rod in wont really help it can acctually cause you more damage than anything. try replacing the old shitty rubber clkutch line with a solid one or steel braided line. then adjust your clutch peddal. also look at your clutch peddal assembly your clutch peddal after you release it should come flush with the brake peddal. if it doesnt then the bushing's on your peddal assembly are worn too far down also and thats a good 1/8 - 1/4 inch of travel you are loosing.

What are you talking about.

Welding 2 nuts to the clutch fork (as you said to do) is the same as using a longer rod.

You're confusing...