11-27-2012
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Setting up a evo's suspension
For some autoX and hopefully one road course at BIR proving grounds next year on a evo ix, but something street friendly since I do drive the car every day, only about 4/5 miles to work round trip though ... Just looking for some insight on a little list i've been thinking of..
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Blisten struts
Works ride springs
Ferodo DS2500 pads
Plan on getting over winter-
New Ferodo DS2500 pads
Motol brake fluid
Rotorpro blanks? Other suggestions on a nice street/light track pad/rotor set on stock brembo's
Stainless steel brake/clutch lines
Rebuilding exedy twin hd(I know not suspension, but getting done over winter)
Rear diff bushings
Set of Hankook RS-3's on stock IX rims... Or a set of advan RS 18x9 if funds are avaiable for the wheels
Any other sugestions would be nice and helpful for me. Of course trying to get the most seat time I can next summer since I just got the car 6/2012
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Mod the rear diff.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
^ I forgot to mention when I do the clutch I am planning on the rear diff mod. Thanks!
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Considered two piece rotors?
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
No I haven't, I can look into them and see how I feel after reading up on them. Any suggestions on a certin two piece set up?
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Brake ducting helps if you do a lot track days, but if you just do one a year you probably don't need it. Stiff front motor mount helps a little, I wouldn't touch the other ones. Depending on what you do for rear diff bushings, they might make your daily driving a little less enjoyable. You really don't have to much to the Evo. We run my wife's Evo at BIR and Road America a bunch of times each Summer and just have the bilsteins, GT Worx springs, brake pads, Whiteline roll center kit, and brake ducting. Rear diff is still stock, stock sway bars. We run the stock front camber bolts in the 2 degree position also.
Maybe do the Whiteline roll center kit when you do the clutch.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
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No I haven't, I can look into them and see how I feel after reading up on them. Any suggestions on a certin two piece set up?
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Girodisc is popular.
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11-27-2012
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Thanks for the info Shane! I will look into the white line roll kit, what brake duct's are you using? Ive read info on guys getting porshe ducts and making them work on evo's brembos.
After some searching on evom, Since I daily the car plan on some autoX probably once a month or every other month and the road course MAYBE/HOPEFULLY at proving grounds or another small novice day, since ive never done it before and would like to learn and get into it more. Heres what Im thinking just for a start maybe get more serious set up after I get a hang of it/got the driver mod down
-AMS oil Series 600 DOT 4 brake fluid
-Rotorpro Slotted or maybe blank rotors (2 piece seems overkill for me since im just getting into it, no huge plans to road race more than once this next year)
-Techna fit SS lines
-Still going with Ferodo 2500's unless anyone suggest anything better. But after reading up they really seem like good dd/autox pads. Plus have them now and cant complaign.
I do have a solid front mount in the car, previous owner (Chuck R) installed it. My car has some good mods to it, I plan on bringing it to you sometime this winter/spring (after I do clutch) to get it retuned maybe after going over it we can chat more about the suspension/my goals and see what you think so far, unless you suggest a different time to tune it on E85. Gas tune is perfect!
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Rotorpro rotors are questionable, they aren't consistent with the quality blank they start with. Look at something like Centric Premiums (125's) instead. ATE Super Blue fluid is comparable at 1/3 the price as Amsoil's. Also check out the new Girodisc S/S orange pads or the RacingBrake 800's; they're both in the same catagory as the Ferodos you're considering. SS brake lines aren't really worth the money and have a much higher failure rate than stock lines (ask me how I know).
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11-28-2012
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
We just have a homemade brake ducting kit. It has sheetmetal backing plates that bolt to the caliper and direct the air into the center of the rotors, orange high temp ducting and then some exhaust reducers from Napa ziptied to some front grill mess for the inlets.
You probably don't need brake ducting for autox though.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Okay so cross off S.S lines, and will look into those 125's for rotors. As well as the s/s orange pads. Would you say their alright for year round driving?
As well as super blue i wanted that but didnt think it was ok to run year round?
Yeah, I wasnt planning on any ducts unless i got more serious into it. But as for now just try it and have fun is my plan
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Super blue is fine to run year round. I'm not sure if this is what you were planning, but i'd recommend having a separate set of street and track pads. That way you don't have to put up with pads that eat your rotors when they're cold and driving them on the street.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
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Okay so cross off S.S lines, and will look into those 125's for rotors. As well as the s/s orange pads. Would you say their alright for year round driving?
As well as super blue i wanted that but didnt think it was ok to run year round?
Yeah, I wasnt planning on any ducts unless i got more serious into it. But as for now just try it and have fun is my plan
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ATE Blue is a terrific year-round fluid.
I have a set of the S/S Orange pads in my garage, I'll be able to give you more feedback on them once they're installed, but they should be acceptable for year-round DD use + autocross + light track duty.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
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ATE Blue is a terrific year-round fluid.
I have a set of the S/S Orange pads in my garage, I'll be able to give you more feedback on them once they're installed, but they should be acceptable for year-round DD use + autocross + light track duty.
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Awesome! Super blue it is, see i thought about having two sets, but figured a nicer high performance street will do the job for what i wanna do.
Feedback on the s/s oranges would be great! I dont plan on buying stuff till Feb/mar. Just so i can start out fresh for summer and go from there, plan on bleeding the brakes every summer since i read with race fluid it is recommended.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
ATE is good for 3 years for normal daily-driving. For street and autocross use I would bleed annually, flush every other. If you're going to be doing track days I would flush annually. It's one of the longest lasting performance fluids out there which is a good thing. Motul, for example, needs to be flushed every 6 months due to it's highly hygroscopic properties no matter usage.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
Oh very nice. Thanks for the info on that! Ate super blue is defiantly for me.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
No, I'd think it'd be more conformist of you.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
More conformist of me?
Sorry he helped me out and is saving me time and money down the road. Plus a good friend of mine uses super blue in his civic he tracks and likes it. Figured id give it a shot as ive not read too many ams oil but search ate super blue and can find a lot.
Still leaning towards ds2500 pads, unsure of rotors yet. Gonna get some pricing and search tonight. I just wanna do my set up once and right untill i get more serious, if i do that is.
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
I don't have any experience with Ferodo pads, but for the level of seriousness it sounds like you're at, I bet multiple cheaper Hawk offerings would do the job just fine. HPS, HP+, Blue?
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Re: Setting up a evo's suspension
eh, i'd prefer to stay away from hawk pads. Seriousness? haha just looking to set it up good for autoX and like I said hopefully try road course. other than that daily driving for me.
Looking into girodisc pads now look to be much cheaper than ferodo's
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