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Old 04-29-2009   #261
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Re: My Talon

My 6 puck sprung with a 2900 held up real well tonight at 27psi on my new setup and pulled extremely hard so I think you should be good with your new disk.
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Old 04-29-2009   #262
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Re: My Talon

Good results for the boost and stock intake manifold on a 2.0L. Hey what brand dyno was this on?
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Good results for the boost and stock intake manifold on a 2.0L. Hey what brand dyno was this on?
Dyno dynamics, the heartbreaker.
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Old 04-29-2009   #264
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My 6 puck sprung with a 2900 held up real well tonight at 27psi on my new setup and pulled extremely hard so I think you should be good with your new disk.
I can drive around right now and haul ass, my clutch doesn't slip. But when I did two launches/pulls immediately right after each other, it slipped the 2nd time.
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Old 04-29-2009   #265
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Dyno dynamics, the heartbreaker.
yep. what, is it, 18% lower than a DJ? 400hp / .82 = about 490hp on a dynojet.
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Old 04-29-2009   #266
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yep. what, is it, 18% lower than a DJ? 400hp / .82 = about 490hp on a dynojet.
I don't think it's that high?
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Old 04-29-2009   #267
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yep. what, is it, 18% lower than a DJ? 400hp / .82 = about 490hp on a dynojet.
DynoJet reading 18% higher than DD != DD reads 82% of DynoJet.

400 * 1.18 = 472
400 * 1.16 = 464
(it seems a lot see between 16-18%, so between 460-470)

Good luck with the new clutch setup.

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Old 04-29-2009   #268
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Re: My Talon

About 18% lower on DD puts you at 490hp. Click. 275.8hp on DJ. 224.7hp on a DD. And, 224.7 / .82 = 274hp. DJ read 275.8hp.

18% less than 100% = 82%

82% X dyno jet numbers = DD number

DDnumbers / .82 = dyno jet numbers

400hp / .82 = 490hp


Regardless, all the numbers are good. No biggie. 470whp is nice.
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Old 04-29-2009   #269
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Enough math, where's the damn dyno sheet?
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1 page back. That's where the 400hp number came from . 402hp, right?
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Don't be ghey, that's shane demonstrating his MS Paint skylz
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Re: My Talon

Ah, I see you took the nasioc stats of DJ reads 21-22% higher than DD. Just personal experience I guess, I don't think we've seen quite that high between our two dynos here in Minneapolis. But another good reference.

+1 for a real dyno sheet!
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Don't be ghey, that's shane demonstrating his MS Paint skylz
It looked funny. Why I asked which brand dyno . . .
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Old 04-29-2009   #274
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Re: My Talon

A DJ in SAE correction in AWD mode seems to around 15%-17% higher than our Dyno Dynamics. It's around 17%-20% for a DJ in STD mode depending on weather conditions. I am only talking AWD cars though. And it still depends on weather, strapping, how each dyno is run, etc.

There is a big difference in the math between saying X reads 18% higher than Y compared to saying Y is 18% lower than X. For example 550cc injectors are 22% bigger than 450cc, but 450cc are 18% smaller than 550cc.
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Re: My Talon

I was misinformed about the AWD vs. 2WD thing previously, but I think that's because I always talked to you crazy evo and dsm people!
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There is a big difference in the math between saying X reads 18% higher than Y compared to saying Y is 18% lower than X. For example 550cc injectors are 22% bigger than 450cc, but 450cc are 18% smaller than 550cc.
Hence, my link to the nasioc dyno results showing that a DD reads about 18% lower thana DJ. Not that a DJ reads 18% higher .

If a typical DJ reads 18% higher than your DD, then you're DD could read a little higher than other typical DDs. No big deal. Just an observation. All dydnos even of the same brand will read different by +/-2 to 3%
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Re: My Talon

I wouldn't try to compare a Subaru as directly though with the way that those ECUs control timing, they aren't the most consistant cars from one run to the next.

The numbers from a DD will depend on inertia settings and load settings and the numbers from a DJ will depend on the correction used SAE, STD, DIN, Uncorrected, etc and the smoothing factor used.
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Re: My Talon

Ah! I know just the silhouette of the scoobie platform. Makes sense. We can all agree the difference is over 17% however you want to do it. not bad. . . If the results are REAL . I'd like to see that dyno sheet too. Very interested in the curve shape.
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Ah! I know just the silhouette of the scoobie platform. Makes sense. We can all agree the difference is over 17% however you want to do it. not bad. . . If the results are REAL . I'd like to see that dyno sheet too. Very interested in the curve shape.
Well I emailed that guy above (Ecoli) to get my graph but no response haha. I GUESS I'll call DB just so I can get it emailed to me.
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Hey, just take a pic of your paper copies and uplaod the pics to photobucket or something. Easy enough.
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