Worried about my car...

Tauni · 10-12-2005

1997 Eagle Talon, Auto, NA

So I'm really worried about my car. It's been doing a lot of wierd stuff lately and I'm thinking I might have to end up selling it to avoid fixing the problems, considering I don't have that kind of money.

So here's the issues:

I'm pretty sure the transmission is slipping. Switching gears [not all of them, but in one, I think going from second to third, I attempted to count but you know..] it revs up a bit before it actually switches gears. Normally the RPM's get to about 3k then it switches gears, but going into this one gear I will be going steady and then it gets to 3k and then revs up to 4k, and THEN switches gears.

I already told you guys about the whistling noise, which is steadily getting louder, and needles to say, more annoying.

This morning I got into my car and started it up. I started to drive away from my house and I have my foot on the gas, and when I would start to go it would bog a little bit before it actually got moving. Mostly this happened aorund corners. But it hasn't happened the rest of the day, so I'm hoping that it's just a matter of it was cold out and the car wasn't warmed up at all yet, though it's never done it on any other morning.

The main thing I'm worried about is the tranny. My last car had tranny problems and I ended up having to sell it before the tranny went out so that I wouldn't have to spend a bitch load to get it fixed. I deffinately don't have money to fix a tranny on the talon either. I'm worried that the only way out is to sell the beast, because we all know how much I love my Glorified. Although then I'd be up $6k and could go for a TSi

But I really don't want to sell it.

I guess my main questions are:
1. What is this bogging? Was it just the cold, or is it having problems?
2. What do you guys suggest as far as the tranny issue and selling it?

Jakey · 10-12-2005

What's the maintenance history of your car? Have you ever changed the plugs & wires?

Tauni · 10-12-2005

I'm not sure. I've only had it for a few months, and the guy before me was a dumb ass and didn't leave shit for records with me. I haven't done anything on it except change the oil since I bought it. But I can check out the plugs and see what they are looking like.

niterydr · 10-12-2005

Change the transmission fluid (im assuming its an auto) and the filter. If that doesn't fix it, report back for more diagnosis.

Jakey · 10-12-2005

To me the bogging sounds like a spark plug and/or wire issue or a partially clogged fuel filter. How many miles are on your car?

Jakey · 10-12-2005

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Originally Posted by niterydr

Change the transmission fluid (im assuming its an auto) and the filter. If that doesn't fix it, report back for more diagnosis.

Change the fluid or tranny flush & fluid change?

Tauni · 10-12-2005

71k

I'll do the transmission stuff this weekend, as I have to do an oil change anyways. I will check the spark plugs and change them if they need to be changed. As for the fuel filter, I wouldn't have a clue. I'll talk to my boyfriend and have him figure that out, though.

niterydr · 10-12-2005

Perferrable a flush (so you get all the stuff out of it) with a high grade fluid and a new filter.
Auto trannies are suspose to have this done every 30k or so.

Jakey · 10-12-2005

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Originally Posted by tALoNGiRL118

71k

I'll do the transmission stuff this weekend, as I have to do an oil change anyways. I will check the spark plugs and change them if they need to be changed. As for the fuel filter, I wouldn't have a clue. I'll talk to my boyfriend and have him figure that out, though.

Personally I'd change the plugs either way since they're pretty cheap and you won't hurt anything by changing them whether they're the reason behind your issues or not.

rk4g63 · 10-12-2005

You can get NGK plugs for 12-14 bucks. Change the wires while you're at it - not too expensive. Tranny fluid - my personal favorite is BG Synchro, but not sure if that's good for an auto though. I never have messed with autos. A lot of the other guys on this site can tell u in a flash though.

If you have a datalogger try using MMCD to see if the injectors are OK. I'd lend you mine but I have a 1G OBD1.

Tauni · 10-12-2005

So I just got off the phone with a transmission shop and before that I talked to my boyfriend about it. Here's what I got out of it:

Boyfriend:
Theoretically, a flush and new filter would do so much as just prolong the tranny going out. But most of the time, if the tranny is slipping the damage is generally already there, and there's not much you can do to fix it.

So then I called the transmission place, pitch all of your ideas and my boyfriends idea to him, and this is what he had to say:

What my boyfriend said could be true, it depends on how the previous owners drove it. [The kid before me was about 20 or so, and let other people drive it, people I know, and people who I know would beat on it.] Also, on you guy's ideas, he recommended checking the fluid. If the fluid is full, the damage is most likely already there. If its low, I should get a flush.

He also said if I take it over there they will test drive it and look at it free of charge so after I check the fluid I will go from there, and if needed I will take it to them after I get the title on my Mazdarati.

TheBlizzard · 10-12-2005

You could get a tranny for that car from a junk yard for faily cheap I would be willing to bet though. I would think they would be pretty common, if you do end up getting a different tranny for the car in the future a tranny cooler would be a good thing to buy. Most trannies like an operating temperature of under 200 degrees, when it gets hotter than that the fluid sludges up and doesn't do its job with makes it even hotter. You can get a decent cooler for about 50 bucks and they are easy to install. Personally I wouldn't own a auto tranny vehicle without a aftermarket tranny cooler. Just ask JET why the only reason his work truck hasn't took a shit yet?

rk4g63 · 10-12-2005

Craig,
Is it posible to hook up a tranny cooler to a 1G AWD? How long to do it?

Tauni,
My buddy priced a tranny from a junkyard for 400 bux (thats only one place he went to though), but tuners has them a bit cheaper.

sleepydsm · 10-12-2005

Just get a turbo manual DSM. Be done with it already!

tim · 10-12-2005

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Originally Posted by tALoNGiRL118

He also said if I take it over there they will test drive it and look at it free of charge so after I check the fluid I will go from there, and if needed I will take it to them after I get the title on my Mazdarati.

I would definitely get an opinion from an auto tranny specialist. Have them drive it and look at the fluid. Tranny flushes can accelerate a problem if the car has been too neglected. Like someone said above trannys should be flushed regularly not when you start having a problem. Call an Aamco or other tranny specific shop.

Khadgar · 10-12-2005

Dont know where you are going but Ive heard only good things from Master Transmission in Rosemount and my dealings with them have been good.

A//// Guy · 10-12-2005

No offense but getting bent out of shape about whistling noises and a checking tranny fluid tells me she is not ready for a turbo dsm... we all know the hastles involved and if you cant fix simple things how are you going to deal with turbo issues?

TheBlizzard · 10-13-2005

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Originally Posted by rk4g63

Craig,
Is it posible to hook up a tranny cooler to a 1G AWD? How long to do it?

Yes. Not very long, you just need the fittings and the cooler. And if it were me I would upgrade the lines as well.

Tauni · 10-13-2005

Eclipseturbo: None taken. I was going over that in my head today, thinking a bit more realistically as far as my money goes. I wouldn't consider myself getting "bent out of shape" about these issues, I'm just trying to get shit taken care of before the problems get to out of hand. I could handle a TSi, just not financially.

Khadgar: I was planning on taking it to Kennedy for the test drive but I will check out that one as well for a second opinion... as long as it won't cost me anything for the opinion, it wouldn't hurt!

I looked at the fluid yesterday. It's not low at all, it's right where it should be and on a white paper towel, the color looked just about right, maybe a TINY bit dirty, but not bad at all. But I will still have the tranny guys look at it, just for safety's sake.

Like I said, I don't have money. Like, none at all, at the moment, becuase as soon as I get my check I am going to be paying a bitch load for a title and tabs on my mazda., plus other bills. So I will probably be broke again. This is why I need to know ASAP if the tranny is bad, or if it's just a matter of the fluid needing to be flushed, because if the tranny is bad, I just want to sell it, and get as much as I can out of it, since clearly I can't afford even a $400 tranny. Besides, I don't think I could trust a used tranny, esp. out of a junk yard.

unreal808 · 10-13-2005

I normally hate mechanic in a can stuff, but TSI (a transmission shop) by my work said that this stuff is good . http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/lubegard.htm
could help the car shift right.