MitsuStyle MitsuStyle

Go Back   MitsuStyle > Tech > Turbo / Engine / Drivetrain

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-19-2004   #1
npaulseth
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 556
Hey guys. I just picked up a 1G AWD four days ago and it's already broke. The engine had 15k on it. Was cruising at 65 mph, just added a quart of oil (the dipstick was broken, so I think I had about 5.5 quarts of oil in the engine. Didn't know that the dipstick was broken till after the car had the oil in it) So, I was just putting along at 65 mph, when the car surged, like a misfire, and then I heard a knocking type noise and the car died. Pull over, start the car, it idles alright, engine was kinda shakey, but it's knocking like crazy. Got it flatbeaded back to my apartment. Took the plugs out, the 2nd cylinder from the timing belt had oil above the threads. All of the spart plugs looked good. Any ideas? Spun rod bearing because of too much oil?? Maybe the timing belt skipped a tooth? I'm going to try and do a comp. test but my thing sucks. Thanks guys. Noah
__________________
92 Talon AWD Auto - SCM61 powered
npaulseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #2
Shane@DBPerformance
formerly ecoli
 
Shane@DBPerformance's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
Send a message via AIM to Shane@DBPerformance
I would check the timing belt, but maybe if your lucky you just killed some plugs and wires and it's running on 2 or 3 cylinders. Usually the first thing to go from too much oil is the turbo though. If the oil level in the pan is too high, then the turbo can't drain properly so the oil starts backing up and blows the seals in the turbo.
__________________
www.dbptuning.com
Shane@DBPerformance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #3
JiN
 
JiN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Farmington
Posts: 626
Was this Dane's old car?
__________________
Evil=Anything that can bleed for seven days and not die. Description: Women.
JiN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #4
npaulseth
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 556
Thanks ecoli. I'm going to drop the oil pan and take off the valve cover to get some more info on what the problem is. Yes, this is Dane's old car. Thanks, Noah
__________________
92 Talon AWD Auto - SCM61 powered
npaulseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #5
slowbubblecar
Big Turbo Monster
 
slowbubblecar's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hopkins
Drives: GTS and E55
Posts: 1,105
that explains why my t25 is in such shitty shape. Before I bought the car, the oil was 4 inches up on the dipstick. I got the car for cheap though.
__________________
Life's tough.... it's even tougher if you're stupid.

7/25/09
Motorcycle cop pulls up next to me on UNI and says "Want to race?"
Me- "I don't think you would stand a chance."
Cop says "probably not" and drives off.
slowbubblecar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #6
npaulseth
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 556
Oh ya, any idea on why the dipstick wouldn't work?
__________________
92 Talon AWD Auto - SCM61 powered
npaulseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #7
Raptor
ConArtist
 
Raptor's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,960
If you want to have some less invasive diagnostics done, we could drive out there with the boroscope and compression tester and see what it looks like. PM me if you want us to check it out.
__________________
Quick Precision Racing, Inc.
"Always Raising the Bar!"
651-488-7774
Raptor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #8
slowbubblecar
Big Turbo Monster
 
slowbubblecar's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hopkins
Drives: GTS and E55
Posts: 1,105
Quote:
Originally posted by npaulseth@Jan 19 2004, 03:06 PM
Oh ya, any idea on why the dipstick wouldn't work?
Well, all I can think of are quite obvious answers. Broken off too short, not enough oil in the car to register, or the dipstich being stuck in the tube. How doesn't it work? I cannot think of anything very obvious. If you have no idea what you are doing, I would deffinitly suggest having Mike (Raptor) checking it out for you. As far as the timing belt, get out your 10mm wrench and unbolt the top cover. It doesn't take more than 10 minutes. It will be quite obvious if the belt has snapped. Also check to make sure it didn't skip a few teeth.

Why were you putting oil in the car before checking the dipstick? 5.5 quarts is a lot of oil in a 1g. From what I remember, they take about 4 quarts.
__________________
Life's tough.... it's even tougher if you're stupid.

7/25/09
Motorcycle cop pulls up next to me on UNI and says "Want to race?"
Me- "I don't think you would stand a chance."
Cop says "probably not" and drives off.
slowbubblecar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004   #9
A//// Guy
 
A//// Guy's Avatar
 
Bloody Seal Bounce Champion!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: South Burbs
Drives: Slowly
Posts: 9,870
If the car stared but ran rough the belt didnt break... Im sure it skipped some teeth. Dont try and start it again just have mike (Raptor) look at it.
A//// Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2004   #10
SuperSleeper
 
SuperSleeper's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 2012 Audi S4
Posts: 860
Send a message via AIM to SuperSleeper
That's a nice offer, Mike. When you guys have come to a conclusion, let me know... I'm curious to hear. I can't believe that happened only a couple days after selling it to you. I never had any problems with it beforehand...

Dane
SuperSleeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2004   #11
dylan
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Spain
Drives: .
Posts: 262
You aren't alone. My engine blew the day after I got my 91 GSX. Connecting rod got mad at the starter so it poked a hole through the engine and bitchslapped the fuck out of it.
dylan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2004   #12
npaulseth
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 556
Quote:
Originally posted by dylan@Jan 20 2004, 12:13 AM
You aren't alone. My engine blew the day after I got my 91 GSX. Connecting rod got mad at the starter so it poked a hole through the engine and bitchslapped the fuck out of it.
Haha, ya, well lets hope that it's just the timing belt. Raptor, where do you live? Also, I have like no money at all, so I couldn't really pay you that much. Call me at 612-290-1040 or PM me please. Thanks a ton guys. Noah
__________________
92 Talon AWD Auto - SCM61 powered
npaulseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2004   #13
Enes
 
Enes's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Blaine
Posts: 2,789
Send a message via ICQ to Enes Send a message via AIM to Enes Send a message via MSN to Enes Send a message via Yahoo to Enes
i think he charges like $25 for using the boroscope.... which is very very reasonable considering you will spend 5 hours taking things off and puting them back on and plus other things that you will use in order to diagnose this problem yourself.
__________________
Enes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2004   #14
A//// Guy
 
A//// Guy's Avatar
 
Bloody Seal Bounce Champion!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: South Burbs
Drives: Slowly
Posts: 9,870
You have no money and you bought a DSM? Well that wasnt a wise choice

If you havent ever done a Timing belt change before its a pain in the butt if you dont have all the right tools. The tensioner is the worst part, so if you are looking to get it fixed it will cost you a couple hundred.... the Timing belt alone is 70-90 bucks.
A//// Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2004   #15
npaulseth
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 556
Well, I am hoping it's the timing belt. It's going to a shop to get diagnosed. I could do a head swap if it comes down to it. If it's something on the bottom end....God help me. Noah
__________________
92 Talon AWD Auto - SCM61 powered
npaulseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004   #16
A//// Guy
 
A//// Guy's Avatar
 
Bloody Seal Bounce Champion!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: South Burbs
Drives: Slowly
Posts: 9,870
So you said in your other post that you drove the car to the shop halfway? I wouldnt drive it if I were you. You could ruin a heck of a lot more than what you did the first time.

Unless you flat bedded it there but then you wouldnt have gone 1/4 of the way...
A//// Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004   #17
npaulseth
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 556
Ya, I'm taking a risk. I just need to get it done.
__________________
92 Talon AWD Auto - SCM61 powered
npaulseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2004   #18
npaulseth
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 556
Well, just talked to the shop. The shop thinks it's something on the bottom end, like a chunk (or skirt) of a piston fell off. What do you guys think?
__________________
92 Talon AWD Auto - SCM61 powered
npaulseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2004   #19
A//// Guy
 
A//// Guy's Avatar
 
Bloody Seal Bounce Champion!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: South Burbs
Drives: Slowly
Posts: 9,870
eh no. I dont know but they ussually dont fall apart unless maybe the psitons hit the valves so much taht it crakced or something... Im not sure.

I doubt its going to be that good.
A//// Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2004   #20
At-Least-It's-An-Evo
At-Least-It's-White-Again
 
At-Least-It's-An-Evo's Avatar
 
Mario Tetris 2 Champion! Tetris Champion! Tetris 2 Champion!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Drives: 98 iVTEC
Posts: 2,371
Send a message via AIM to At-Least-It's-An-Evo
Quote:
Originally posted by npaulseth@Jan 26 2004, 02:30 PM
Well, just talked to the shop. The shop thinks it's something on the bottom end, like a chunk (or skirt) of a piston fell off. What do you guys think?
What shop is this? How can a piston "fall off"? :bs:
__________________
'04 Honda Ricer: stock

Done fuckin' with cars but I will snap some photos of yours for now! =)
At-Least-It's-An-Evo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.