01-27-2004
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formerly ecoli
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Sounds like high piston speeds and scored cylinder walls with the shitty rod ratio of the 2.4s, even with long rods.
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01-27-2004
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#22
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Quote:
Originally posted by ecoli@Jan 27 2004, 12:24 PM
Sounds like high piston speeds and scored cylinder walls with the shitty rod ratio of the 2.4s, even with long rods.
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Marco spins his to 9500rpm and hasn't had it happen yet.
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01-27-2004
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Been there, done that.
Join Date: Oct 2003
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I read a post about a guy who bougth a 2.4 7bolt. had it build but it CW'd just after the break in miles.
I believe it was Marco build?
Reason I ask all this is because. Of the issues I'm running into with my car. If I have to upgrade I was just wondering instead of having to spend $3000 or what ever just for the bottom end/etc.
I was hopeing to just upgrade the internals. And just have the bottom end Honned.etc.
I swore Mike said that was something about a Pin you could put in place/etc?
figure my motors lastest 50K miles. And to be honest almost all of it (was abuse)
Ya I drive slowly for DD when in traffic,etc. But as soon as a lane opens up or I get on a side street I'm Always accelerating hard to the speed limits. (kind of get the mentality of an Auto crosser on my drive to and from work sometimes)
And then we all know what has happened late at night when I go out.
-brian
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01-27-2004
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aka Goodbye
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Brian, I'd just do a cheap rebuild and save your money for your future breakage. :bounce:
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01-27-2004
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Been there, done that.
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haha.
I'm just trying to do the most with what I have available. Believe me I want to do it right the first time. With out cutting corners but to come up with something like $4-5K will take me over a year to save up.
But if I can do it with say 2K that might be something I could accomplish in the next 5 months.
But once the final diagnosis that my motor is Shot (which I personally Think/Believe it's far from) I'll be diving into research on which motor I'd go with .
Probably a 2.14 but the 2.4 also is a possibility. Hopefully when the time comes to do a rebuild. There will be more local personal experience with those 2 motor.
-brian
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01-27-2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlowWhite@Jan 27 2004, 02:05 PM
Probably a 2.14 but the 2.4 also is a possibility. Hopefully when the time comes to do a rebuild. There will be more local personal experience with those 2 motor.
-brian
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Talk with Raptor, he's spent some time looking into the 2.14L
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01-27-2004
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Is funding Exxon.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX+Jan 27 2004, 12:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (1ViciousGSX @ Jan 27 2004, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ecoli@Jan 27 2004, 12:24 PM
Sounds like high piston speeds and scored cylinder walls with the shitty rod ratio of the 2.4s, even with long rods.
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Marco spins his to 9500rpm and hasn't had it happen yet. [/b][/quote]
Marco is full of crap! I saw one of his pistons in person and it was scored on the sides. I believe that is the one that he spun to 9500. I am setting my redline at 7800, but it ain't no puny 3.38L either like the Magnus :P
Raptor was probably talking about dowelling the main caps. Do that and line hone it and it should be a lot better.
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01-27-2004
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Asshat King
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Quote:
Originally posted by JET+Jan 27 2004, 02:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JET @ Jan 27 2004, 02:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX@Jan 27 2004, 12:27 PM
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@Jan 27 2004, 12:24 PM
Sounds like high piston speeds and scored cylinder walls with the shitty rod ratio of the 2.4s, even with long rods.
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Marco spins his to 9500rpm and hasn't had it happen yet.
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Marco is full of crap! I saw one of his pistons in person and it was scored on the sides. I believe that is the one that he spun to 9500. I am setting my redline at 7800, but it ain't no puny 3.38L either like the Magnus :P
Raptor was probably talking about dowelling the main caps. Do that and line hone it and it should be a lot better. [/b][/quote]
Is doweling the main caps the theory that "NosLaser" from Tuners has put together that I posted up on here back in the day?
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01-27-2004
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#29
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Admin
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Doweling refers to installing dowel pins into the main caps & block prior to align honing the block. That way when main caps are removed and reinstalled they will mate back together correctly.
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