View Poll Results: Where do I go from here? (now that all of the children have grown up...)
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Build the X
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No one wants a $60k evo with high monthly payments, get out now and buy a 9.
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02-01-2013
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#2441
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
You can get a 6266 or 6766 for half the cost of a 6466, so it's probably not going to be that commonly used.
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Really?
The 6466 is actually more than both those by double? Or do you mean a lot of people are selling them used for cheap or something? Just confused how the other turbos can be so much cheaper? I am guessing they are all about the same cost to produce.
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02-01-2013
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#2442
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Circle Pines
Drives: 1992 talon tsi 1995 corolla
Posts: 2,048
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Really?
The 6466 is actually more than both those by double? Or do you mean a lot of people are selling them used for cheap or something? Just confused how the other turbos can be so much cheaper? I am guessing they are all about the same cost to produce.
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on pte's website a 6466 is 1909.99, a 6766 is 1199.99 and a 6266 is 999.99 so the 6466 is just normally quite a bit more
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02-01-2013
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#2443
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
That is awesome, I say do it.
Is there anyone local making good power on a 6466? I haven't seen one outpower a 6266.
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There's a guy named Troy on evomn (and here) that had a 6266 fail, when it came back it was a 6466. The car made like 40whp more and spooled about 200rpm later. Pretty sweet
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-01-2013
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#2444
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
Posts: 1,152
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
i like the 6466 idea lol
although your ef4 is probably pretty nasty
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2006 WW IX RS - Stock Motor/Turbo/E85 388/404 #RonnieTuned
2006 WW IX RS - 20K Miles - SOLD
2006 WW IX RS 396/404 - SOLD
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02-01-2013
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#2445
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
There's a guy named Troy on evomn (and here) that had a 6266 fail, when it came back it was a 6466. The car made like 40whp more and spooled about 200rpm later. Pretty sweet
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Same boost levels?
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02-01-2013
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#2446
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
There's a guy...that had a 6266 fail
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That's wierd...
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02-01-2013
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#2447
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Halon
That's wierd...
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2 of them actually. One lasted about 5 minutes of idling, the other about 500 miles of break in and >10 psi.
http://www.evomn.net/forums/showthre...466-comparison
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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02-02-2013
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#2448
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Maple Grove
Drives: Evo 8, 2014 Silverado
Posts: 224
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Me and Josh are both making good power on the 6466's. My car still had a stock intake manifold, throttle body, and no porting on the head, it made 709whp at 38psi on RS's Mustang Dyno. Josh Made over 700 on Buschur's Mustang Dyno.
The reason the 6466's cost so much more is they only come in Ball Bearing, you can get the 62 and 67 in Journal Bearings hence the lower price on the site, when you get up to the Ball Bearing option for those turbo's they close in on price with the 64.
My 64 actually spooled the same as my 62 did, at 35psi it didnt really make much more power. but the 6266 quit making power on my set up at that level (615whp on Ron's Dyno) the 6466 started picking up good power around there so it must have been right in its efficiency range, I ended up being able to make 665whp with 39psi, then it slowed down on making power until I went from kelford 272's to GSC s3's where it made 709whp at 38psi
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02-02-2013
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#2449
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: KY/MN/Afghanistan
Drives: EVO IX SSL
Posts: 413
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
My car is at DB getting the fuel system changed some and setup on E98 so we'll see what kind of power it will make all in. Though my stock ported TB and IM will probably turn into a restriction, maybe the M2 cams too, but, none of that is going to get changed.
The 711 at buschur/773 at MAP my car made was done with a tune setup for E70(that was 5 months old at the tme) too.
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02-02-2013
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#2450
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Vassil made 745 on a DSM at DB at 35psi, that is why I ask and there are a few DSMs in that 700-750 range without going over 40psi.
That is the only reason I say that, I have heard that the 6466 and 6766 spool damn near the 6266 in a lot of cases though.
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02-02-2013
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#2451
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Sorry to get off the whole 6466 topic Maybe I should've made its own thread, didn't think it would generate enough talk.
Anyway, new parts! Trying to solve my whole crank case pressure deal, this should do it. At the track my oil cap came off, not sure if its from the fact it might be a shitty design or just crank case pressure pushing it off, so I didn't want to risk it and bought these. New oil cap (lost mine) and new catch can with 10AN lines and light weight matching bracket on the other side of the bumper.
Here is an example of it installed:
I'll take more pictures this spring when I put it in with my new fuel rail and new injectors.
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02-02-2013
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#2452
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
If a DSM cap is the same style and fits on your car, you are welcome to try my -10AN oil cap.
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02-02-2013
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#2453
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
If a DSM cap is the same style and fits on your car, you are welcome to try my -10AN oil cap.
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I don't think I'd need that. I assume that is to connect to a catch can? My valve cover has 2 ports already.
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02-02-2013
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#2454
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
What's that 2nd bracket for?
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02-02-2013
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#2455
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Looks like it actually replaces the mount for the front crash beam. No wonder it's so beefy
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-02-2013
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#2456
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I'll show pictures later, the second bracket is the mirror image, just not a catch can on the other side, weight savings basically.
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02-03-2013
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#2457
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I don't think I'd need that. I assume that is to connect to a catch can? My valve cover has 2 ports already.
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Yes it would need to be connected to some kind of catch can, well I'm getting rid of it and I didn't know if you wanted more ports.
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02-03-2013
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#2458
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Halon
What's that 2nd bracket for?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides
Looks like it actually replaces the mount for the front crash beam. No wonder it's so beefy
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Here are a few more pics, its part of the front crash beam like Scheides said I believe.
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Yes it would need to be connected to some kind of catch can, well I'm getting rid of it and I didn't know if you wanted more ports.
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Yea I don't think I will need any more ports, thanks though man
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02-03-2013
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#2459
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
So are there any provisions for providing vacuum to the oil can?
Also how on earth is that 'easy access' for draining? I guess if you have no undertray?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-04-2013
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#2460
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
So are there any provisions for providing vacuum to the oil can?
Also how on earth is that 'easy access' for draining? I guess if you have no undertray?
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No provisions for vacuum on this. And its just as easy/hard as my current catch can setup, which sucks to drain lol. My current one I have to basically take my bumper off to do. This I think you can pull the undertray and drain, maybe 20 mins of dinking around, not so bad.
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