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**Kracka** · 10-03-2008

Quotes from Osama's I mean Obama's books:

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

john · 10-04-2008

Lets get this straight. Anyone who saw the debate and the analysis should agree.

People thought Palin did what she had to, defend Palin. Biden did what he had to, rip McCain.

There was a completely different objective in this debate. Palin was just trying not to embarrass the party and Biden was trying to better his campaign. This is why some republicans think she did well, lower expectation and she didn't embarrass them (again).

IMO, McCain campaign talked with her before the debate and said, "if you don't know what to say, just say you are thankfull to be running with McCain and his policies and talk about something different."

She avoided giving answers to several questions as she has no idea what is going on in the world.

Peter, how can you vote towards putting her into office??? She is one bullet away from running the country. Do you think she is qualified??? What a mess we would be in.

For those who think Biden would be better, you are voting on the two of them. There is no fundamental difference between Barak and Biden. They have similar beliefs and views on the world. I believe that they are going to work together to fix the mess we are in. It is obvious that McCain and Palin don't see eye to eye on issues and that it will be a campaign run by McCain.

I just can't see how anyone can try and vote Palin into office. Anyone on the senate would be more qualified to run.

311evo · 10-04-2008

id rather have Palin as Vice-Prez then Obama as President.

maybe its just me, but i would still like to be able to afford gas, and entertainment, and maybe college.

john · 10-04-2008

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Originally Posted by 311evo

id rather have Palin as Vice-Prez then Obama as President.

maybe its just me, but i would still like to be able to afford gas, and entertainment, and maybe college.

Please explain how Obama is going to raise gas, entertainment, and college costs. Seriously, do it. I will even read a source to wikipedia. What makes you think this?

**JET** · 10-04-2008

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Please explain how Obama is going to raise gas, entertainment, and college costs. Seriously, do it. I will even read a source to wikipedia. What makes you think this?

So how is he going to pay for universal heathcare and bigger government without raising taxes?

311, I totall agree. I would rather have an rookie as VP vs. a rookie as Pres. Palin should have at least a few years as VP before she would take over.

311evo · 10-04-2008

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Originally Posted by JET

So how is he going to pay for universal heathcare and bigger government without raising taxes?

311, I totall agree. I would rather have an rookie as VP vs. a rookie as Pres. Palin should have at least a few years as VP before she would take over.

exactly!

IMO Palin is less off a rookie then Osa... Obama. she has at least governed a state, and what does Obama have? a few years in the senet? weak sauce muh' frand. weak sauce..

john · 10-04-2008

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Originally Posted by JET

So how is he going to pay for universal heathcare and bigger government without raising taxes?

311, I totall agree. I would rather have an rookie as VP vs. a rookie as Pres. Palin should have at least a few years as VP before she would take over.

Raise taxes on the people making over $250k, that is how yo raise the money. I bet there is not one person on here who would be affected by affected by this. Most of you probably don't know that they have been increasing the social security cap over the years which I support. For example in 2006 it was $94000 and in 2008 it is $102,000.

The article above talks about it increasing the tax evasion. This is BS as they have significant penalties they charge for payroll tax evasion. For example, I was working on a local company the other day who payed over $32,XXX in penalties this year. The author doesn't know what he is talking about.

Palin calls herself in the middle class. They released her tax returns and she made over $170,000 in low-cost alaska.

I think a few years in the senate is far more valuable than part of a term as govorner. Atleast obama had to deal with issues affecting the country including internatational issues. Not just abusing power while sitting in as governer.

Matt D. · 10-05-2008

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Originally Posted by john

I think a few years in the senate is far more valuable than part of a term as govorner. Atleast obama had to deal with issues affecting the country including internatational issues. Not just abusing power while sitting in as governer.

Because Obama has never abused his power, right?

http://governor.mo.gov/cgi-bin/coran...&tmpl=newsitem

311evo · 10-04-2008

i didnt say he would raise the prices, i said i would like to afford these things. which means if all my money is gone to taxes (and the price of gasoline WILL go up under Obama) i wont have fun spending all of it on parts and helping the economy

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/1...ot-so-quickly/

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/...cial-security/

im not a big political guy, so im not argueing with you John, i think everyone should vote for whoever they want, so im not looking to change anyones mind.

311evo · 10-04-2008

and even if Obama says he wont, he's lied about the dumbest shit before (like his uncle, who doesnt exist, that liberated auschwitz, which unless he was in the soviet army, never happened. etc.)

john · 10-04-2008

I like the arguement about big goverment. It is always said how democrats are for more government and regulation and that republicans are for deregulation and small government. Could this be the reason we are talking about a bailout??? Not strong enought regulation in the past???

**JET** · 10-06-2008

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I like the arguement about big goverment. It is always said how democrats are for more government and regulation and that republicans are for deregulation and small government. Could this be the reason we are talking about a bailout??? Not strong enought regulation in the past???

Obviously you didn't look at the power point posted on the last page. Check that out and you will see why the bailout is happening. Obama was the #2 recipient of payouts.

A//// Guy · 10-08-2008

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Obviously you didn't look at the power point posted on the last page. Check that out and you will see why the bailout is happening. Obama was the #2 recipient of payouts.

Thats true he is, but the facts are interesting too. More on who got what, and how the facts are skewed.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ie-and-fannie/

john · 10-08-2008

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Thats true he is, but the facts are interesting too. More on who got what, and how the facts are skewed.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ie-and-fannie/

Aside from the debate, I think the Fact Check section after on CNN is the most interesting part of the coverage. It is interesting to see who is lying or streching the truth. Too bad many people turn it off after the debate and trust the misleading information.

1QUICK4 · 10-09-2008

Froid slip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7irg...91#post1100891

311evo · 10-05-2008

you should be watching Fox News right now..

**Kracka** · 10-05-2008

I love with Matt D. posts b/c they always make me smile and laugh. I know he isn't pro-McCain, but at least he is anti-Obama

311evo · 10-09-2008

dear god.

BTW the "comic strip" is awesome.

tpunx99GSX · 10-09-2008

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/14414
Sorry McCain Busted.

**JET** · 10-09-2008

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/14414
Sorry McCain Busted.

Oooooh, they changed a draft copy, that is horrible! Oh wait, isn't that the whole point of a draft? At least McCain didn't say he was a muslim when he has always said he was a christian.