06-16-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winona Minnesota
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Re: Project Winter Beater
So I think I've found the problem. I took the cop setup off a few days back to inspect things and ever since it's been on like 3 cylinders. Well I took the cop back off today to check the plugs, put it back on and it ran fine till i touched the gas again. Then it was missing. I took the cop off and sure enough, one of the wires were pulled out of the stock plug on the cop side of things.
I crimped it so it's hardwired for now to get me to work. When I get to work, I'll solder it up until I find a stock plug again.
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Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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06-19-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
Well it drove fine on the way to work but still cut out under load. Pulled it inside the shop right away and soldered the 3 wires up. Pulled it out of the garage and it was back to missing again. On my lunch break I took it home and would only run right if it was between 2500 and 4k. Anywhere else in the rpm range and it would be on 3 cylinders.
I know for sure the number one cylinder isn't firing for whatever reason because I can cut the number one injector on my datalogger and it doesn't change the 3 cylinder running. I'm waiting for some motivation to hit me today and get my ass outside to mess with it some more. I have a stock coil pack and wires I picked up from Twack, just waiting for said motivation...
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Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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06-19-2010
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is Nashty
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Stillwater
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Re: Project Winter Beater
Yeah I didn't like my COP when I had it on my car. It looks sexy, but performs poorly. I'm sure the stock ignition setup will fix all your issues.
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06-19-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
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Yeah I didn't like my COP when I had it on my car. It looks sexy, but performs poorly. I'm sure the stock ignition setup will fix all your issues.
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Mine's been great for the last 2 or so years. I don't understand why it has started giving me problems now.
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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06-22-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
Having the stock coil pack and good wires on it (Thanks Twack) got it back to driving status but not full on boosting yet. Still fuel cuts after I changed out the sock on the pump with a brand new one in hopes I don't have to change the pump. Also checked the mafs and it seems to be in good working order. I read with those if you tap them with a screw driver at idle they shouldn't change readings at all, but a bad one will. Having the screen off the 3 in. gm maf wouldn't be causing this, right?
It's acting like it's running out of fuel before the injectors though. IDC's shoot way up from 65% way up to 115% on one of my pulls right before fuel cut. That's how my Laser acted before I put the evo9 pump in.
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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Last edited by 123abc; 06-22-2010 at 01:37 PM..
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07-06-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
So I've now replaced all 4 injector plugs with newer ones off a 420a and still no difference. What I don't understand is I'm getting 11.7 v on both wires that go to the injectors. Shouldn't I get 12 + on one wire and the other is a ground that the ecu operates?
I'm going to swap my evo 9 pump back in and also re-wire it and see if that helps. I'm seriously out of ideas. I really want to run it this weekend at the autocross.
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Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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Last edited by 123abc; 07-06-2010 at 03:03 PM..
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07-19-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
So after another week of thinking and tinkering on it... I think I've fixed it. It still leans out up top but that's because I have the stock pump in there still. But it pulls like it should for 12 psi. What fixed it was a new fuel filter and putting some injector cleaner in with about 3/8 tank. When I took the filter off straight dirt was coming out. Pretty nasty actually. I should've paid more attention when twack said the tank is pretty dirty...
Before, I'd have to set the translator box to around 480's to even drive the car anywhere. After driving it around with the cleaner in the tank, I started noticing it running smoother. So I messed with the base adjustment knob on the maf-t and it's been running fine set to 560's again. I went on a 20 min cruise last night on some dirt back roads and can say it seems to be back up to where it should be. I could tell the difference through the day. I tried doing some 2nd gear donuts in a parking lot and it just bogged, no power. I tried it later in the day and it was not a problem, just ripped the lot up in 2nd. hahaha
I plan to swap the evo9 pump back in this week and then I should be good to go with a fresh tank of 93 octane.
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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09-17-2010
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3g camaro owner
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: Project Winter Beater
Well GAB's are pretty much manufactured by KYB. KYB just revalves them per GAB's specs. Most reviews say that they are pretty stiff as well.
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09-17-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
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Well GAB's are pretty much manufactured by KYB. KYB just revalves them per GAB's specs. Most reviews say that they are pretty stiff as well.
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Thanks, did not know that.  Know anything about the springs? There looks to be two sets of front springs, one set is really tall, the other looks normal for a 1g awd. Any ideas on them too?
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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09-17-2010
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3g camaro owner
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: Project Winter Beater
i have no clue on the springs, unless they were bought as complete assemblys new and were taken apart for some reason. the taller springs would make things pretty firm i would think.
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09-19-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
I asked the guy I'm buying them from if he knows anything and he said he doesn't. He said he parted out a GVR4 and these were with it. We'll see when they get here.
On another note, I was also able to locate some Noltec rear mustache and rear subframe bushings along with a set of Ingall's rear adjustable control arms. This completes my bushing collection and I just need to either get the Jays Racing toe eliminator links or weld the stock ones solid. Anyone have experience with either?
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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09-19-2010
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The land of the next-gen HMMWV
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Re: Project Winter Beater
are those 3si wheels? I'm surprised they fit.
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09-19-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
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are those 3si wheels? I'm surprised they fit.
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They barely did after a lot of grinding. I do have 3mm spacers on the way off ebay which should make em fit a lot better. I love how much grip 245 series tires have to offer....
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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09-20-2010
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It was a auto get over it
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Re: Project Winter Beater
with spacers will it rub on the fender or other places?
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09-20-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
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with spacers will it rub on the fender or other places?
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It might rub on the fender, but I can always roll that out for more clearence. I'd rather do that than keep rubbing on the inner fenders preventing me from going full lock.
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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09-24-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
I found an energy suspension rear control arm kit on ebay which includes lower and upper control arm bushings and the trailing arm bushing. I'm going to save myself 200 dollars and weld some washers on the active toe links.
I also called up Tirerack and ordered a set of 4 215-55-r16 General Altimax Arctic tires. I'm really excited for snow....
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Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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09-30-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
Woo hoo got my tires in today:
Also have been working on the Talon:

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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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10-01-2010
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Re: Project Winter Beater
Just got done with the trailing arms at school today. Sadly no pics yet of my booger welds. Found a couple big washers over in autobody and welded them bitches solid. I've also got to remove about 6 metal sleeves inside the bushings areas of the trailing arms, lower control arms, and the mustache brace. I also want to beef up the stock mustache brace because it looks like a really flimsy piece.
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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11-09-2010
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Project Winter Beater
Have you done a compression test?
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11-09-2010
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It was a auto get over it
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Re: Project Winter Beater
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Have you done a compression test?
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only with a real shitty tester. hes waiting till i bring mine down
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