Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*

[xveganxcowboyx]

Originally Posted by HaredX

First of all, if you know anything about pot you know that you have to be EXTREMELY close to someone smoking it in a horribly ventilated area in order to even get remotely high from second-hand smoke. Secondly, second-hand marijuana smoke is FAR less harmful then tobacco smoke yet tobacco is legal. And your sporting event analogy is just retarded, tobacco isn't allowed at a sport stadiums and I'm sure marijuana wouldn't be either if it were legal, there are ways you can control it if legalized that would be much more cost-efficient and safe then keeping it illegal.

Just being near someone who is smoking pot is enough to make me go stupid. Not enough to give me a contact, but enough that I feel 'fuzzy' for the next day or so.

[HaredX]

That would be the placebo effect. I don't care what you say no feeling from pot ever lasts for over 24 hours especially if it is merely second hand smoke. Before I started smoking I would sit in a room with people smoking pot and never feel even slightly abnormal. In order to get a contact high you would need to be in a small space like a car with all windows rolled up and no air circulation.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by DSMStyle

I think this thread killed any shot we had of landing that big sponsor some knew about. LOL!

AJ stop trying to land "High Times" As a sponsor, they wont give you free weed.

[Halon]

I know I'm blowing stuff outta proportion now. It's because this thread is ridiculous and needs to disappear.

I'm waiting for him to run for president, and tell the world how he didn't inhale!

[HaredX]

If I was president I would smoke pot during a press conference

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH fuckin a Jared

[Tauni]

Ok sleepy2lazy: In a sense I see your point. However, I can say [and I am not by any means proud of this, more less ashamed, but it will make my point stronger so whatever] that in my lowest points, I have abused them both. When I abused the alcohol, I ended up at the hospital with alcohol poisoning. My dad picked me up from the hospital and I was in a FUCK load of trouble. Then I abused pot. Nothing bad happened. I walked it all off. Can't do that with booze. I feel much safer smoking pot. Generally I feel much more controlled and calm. I have never said shit I didn't mean smoking pot, as apposed to when I drink, a lot of what I say is stuff I'm pulling out of my ass. I've never gotten into a fight high, which I have done drunk. And I have never woken up in strange places high, which I have done drunk. I'd still rather drink just because I have more fun, but I just don't really agree with your statement.

As far as legalizing pot. I see both sides of the arguement. I can see where the crime rate may go down should pot be legalized. But I can also see the vicious cycle starting over with something worse, which could also lead to worse crime, since the next drug will be harder. I think if they just leave it illegal things will be fine. Either way people are going to smoke pot, so whats the point in changing things?

Haredx: I agree with AJ [dsmstyle] 100%. What is your problem anyways? Why did you come on this site? Do you even have a DSM? If you do, more power to you, but if not then why are you here? All you have done is proven you ignorance, and made a horrible impression. I think the majority of us don't agree with your views, and you calling us closed minded, even though we have valid reasons to back up our opinions, does not help one bit. My advice to you is to lay off the pot and grow up a little bit. It might help you see things a little clearer.

[HaredX]

I think you are the one that has growing up to do. Most people here for that matter have a lot of growing up to do. The point in changing things is because people who are doing something so innocent and harmless as smoking pot are going to jail for longer terms then most sex offenders. We are spending BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of our precious tax dollars trying to criminalize something so miniscule and harmless. Your argument about legalizing pot increasing crime has no background to it. Places like Amsterdam, where pot isnt legal but is FAR less prosecuted, have SIGNIFICANTLY lower crime rates and you wonder why that is? It's because they don't have a black market of drug dealers who will do anything and take down anyone to stay at the top, all you have to do to get a joint is stop by the local coffee shop. There are no drug dealers with thousands of dollars worth of product and cash on them to get robbed and people aren't trying to escape police in fear that they might go to jail for 25 years just for owning a stupid plant. The drug laws in America are WAY too strict and I, myself, being a tax payer, am sick and tired of throwing my hard earned money towards a pointless cause, if we used all the money we are spending trying to stop such a pointless crime towards a larger evil, such as poverty, we could pretty much eliminate it. My father is one of the smartest people I know full of wisdom and knows at least something about pretty much every subject and he has used pot since he was a teenager, so please stop with your moronic and ignorant comments that people who smoke are immature and stupid.

[tim]

Originally Posted by DSMStyle

I think this thread killed any shot we had of landing that big sponsor some knew about. LOL!

I sure hope not. Sounded like something good for the site.

At any rate I dont understand how Mr. HaredX can sit and bash people for voicing opinions that differ from his? Everyone has their own views and opinions and that is how it should be. If people can smoke marijuana or Salvia or whatever and not have a problem with it good for them. I just know that it isnt for me and that it has ruined a lot of my friends lives indirectly.

Drugs, if it is mairjuana or cocaine or alchohol are not good for us and shouldnt be used at all. People who do use them do it at their own risk and should understand all consequences related to them and people around them. Because, like I said before there is no drug that is good for you(aside from prescriptions obviously) and if the drug wont directly hurt you it can hurt you indirectly from the actions you do while on it.

[Tauni]

Originally Posted by HaredX

I think you are the one that has growing up to do. Most people here for that matter have a lot of growing up to do. The point in changing things is because people who are doing something so innocent and harmless as smoking pot are going to jail for longer terms then most sex offenders. We are spending BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of our precious tax dollars trying to criminalize something so miniscule and harmless. Your argument about legalizing pot increasing crime has no background to it. Places like Amsterdam, where pot isnt legal but is FAR less prosecuted, have SIGNIFICANTLY lower crime rates and you wonder why that is? It's because we don't have drug dealers who will do anything and take down anyone to stay at the top, all you have to do to get a joint is stop by the local coffee shop. There are no drug dealers with thousands of dollars worth of product and cash on them to get robbed and people aren't trying to escape police in fear that they might go to jail for 25 years just for owning a stupid plant. The drug laws in America are WAY too strict and I, myself, being a tax payer, am sick and tired of throwing my hard earned money towards a pointless cause, if we used all the money we are spending trying to stop such a pointless crime towards a larger evil, such as poverty, we could pretty much eliminate it.

Ok I was trying to be nice about everything I said, but you have got to be one of the biggest retards ever. I'm sorry we have a lot more self respect and dignity than to look stupid by smoking pot, but don't even sit here and say that we are closed minded and need to grow up because I'm sorry but you are a little over ruled on that one. You don't even have any right to say something like that, considering we backed up all of our agruements. Don't even bitch about taxes, either. You spend billions of dollars on meaningless bullshit, other than just prosecuting stoners for "opening up their minds" and "seeing life in a different light." Like all of the bullshit stadiums they decide to build, while high schools like the one I went to fall apart and get no funding. Ok fine, so stoners stay in jail longer than sex offenders. Trust me, that I agree with you on that, and couldn't agree more. I would give anything to have those shit heads who hurt women rot in jail for a good portion, if not their entire life, but when you run for President you can handle that right? You seem to think this is some big joke. It's not. I think you must have smoked yourself retarded and I don't think you have any place here. If it were up to me you'd be long gone. Lucky for you I'm not a mod.

[Tauni]

Originally Posted by HaredX

My father is one of the smartest people I know full of wisdom and knows at least something about pretty much every subject and he has used pot since he was a teenager, so please stop with your moronic and ignorant comments that people who smoke are immature and stupid.

Well then the old saying "like father, like son" deffinately does NOT apply to you.

[AJ]

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

[xveganxcowboyx]

Originally Posted by HaredX

That would be the placebo effect. I don't care what you say no feeling from pot ever lasts for over 24 hours especially if it is merely second hand smoke. Before I started smoking I would sit in a room with people smoking pot and never feel even slightly abnormal. In order to get a contact high you would need to be in a small space like a car with all windows rolled up and no air circulation.

Err, no, it's called the 'pot fucks with your system' effect. And I've gotten mild contacts from people smoking in cars with the windows down. Apparently some people react differently than you. How bizarre.

Have you ever talked to someone who stopped smoking pot for a while and said after a few days their mind started to clear up. It definetly can effect you for longer than 24 hours. Just not necessarily as distinctly as being 'high.'

[JET]

I have used weed in moderation and never became addicted to it. I would agree that it is easier on your system than alcohol is. I never really got much of a hang over from it, but I did eat the hell out of some Dorito's! Both have their place, but both should be enjoyed in moderation. Like Tauni said, I have done a LOT more stupid stuff drunk than high. It has also been harder on my system, but if you don't get crazy with it, alcohol is fine. I haven't smoked in several years, but it was just nice to chill out, sit back and laugh at stupid shit.

Yes, weed is addicting to some people. It wasn't to me, but I know several that were. It may have been more mentally addicting than physically, but addicting nonetheless. Yes, it can make you dumb. I can still tell a big time stoner, even if they aren't stoned. Many long time stoners can't function normally if they AREN'T stoned. Ever heard of the Wake 'n Bake?

Everyone knows the side effects of alcohol. It is bad for you, but not bad in moderation. It is actually good for you in light moderation. The hangover the next day is the worst part for me. Get drunk and the next day is pretty much shot.

[Thor06]

Man will this thread ever die?

Nope, pot wont fuck with you at all, just ask my friend Joe how far he can run. After giggling for a few seconds and asking you to repeat the question a time or two slower so he can understand it better, he'll probably try to show you. He'll probably make it about a hundred yards before he has to stop. During his pot smoking years he has lost like 40 lbs and is pretty skinny now, his physique isnt the thing slowing him down. Its the shit in his lungs from smoking pot.

Have any of you potsmokers ever not been stoned around other people that are stoned? I hardly think that drunks are more dangerous than stoned people. You might think you are totally in control, but you arent. Just ask my buddy Greg. He fuckin air nailed a 2x4 to his foot and walked around telling everyone he was big foot when he was stoned in construction during 10th grade. I'm sure he knew exactly what he was doing though.

And yes, you can get messed up on second hand smoke. On the bus to school in 8th grade two kids came on that had been smoking pot. The sat behind me on the bus and werent even smoking it and I got lightheaded and threw up at school. I was sick for that day and didnt feel much better until the middle of the next day. Pot has different effects on everyone, evidently it doesnt like me.

While we're eliminating the crime commited from pot smokers by legalizing pot, why dont we just do away with all the laws? We could just do away with all the police officers and the whole judicial system, then we would have a shit ton of money to do whatever the fuck we wanted! Hell, we could just have one big nation wide pot smoking day. The whole damn country can nail boards to their feet and run around like big foot for a minute or two, then fall over due to being out of breath.

So Mr. Open Minded, what do you think of that? Am I close minded bastard because I think pot is bad when it is the only reason that 3 people I knew killed themselves, 7-10 have attempted suicide, and somewhere in the neighbor hood of 12-15 of my friends dropped out and now they live at home, cant hold a job, cant do any physical activity, and can barely add in their heads? Huh? Is that not evidence enough to think drugs are bad? Since you are so openminded and smart, why dont you tell me why its good?

[BOVADDICT]

jared.. your a fuckin moron. you arent the government and none of us are.. where your facts come from is a bunch of stoners on weedtalk.com or something..

the truth is we wont know.. Anyway stupidist sentence you ever read eh? well stupidist isnt a word biatch!!! that being you are a retard k? you dont own a dsm.. you only came on here to back tom up. which is cool cause you FUCK him over all the time yet hes a good guy and comes back to you. for once your loyal. Anyway you are an idiot.. drugs are stupid.. go live life. end of discussion..

get a job, get a girlfriend(one who doesnt fuck your best friend or you cheat on her) get a car. get REAL friends who are loyal and knwo will always be there for you.. get a career and show something for yourself.. be a good person to god and go to heaven.. thats what matters.. fuck mind opening expreriences on earth through smoking something.. do something good for others.. itll feel better and benefit you more then smoking pot.. pot, salvia, alcohol(when not used in moderation) are all stupid and everyone will learn this and will come with maturity.. by the way age doesnt always go with maturity either..

bythe way.. tell your dad hes a winner in my book!

BRRRRAAAAWWWWTTTT!

[Emcee gsxtc]

Originally Posted by DSMStyle

I think this thread killed any shot we had of landing that big sponsor some knew about. LOL!

I am disappointed that threads like this are becoming more and more common on our beloved DSMStyle. If you are into drugs, go to a drug forum. If you don't own a DSM, or at least some car faster than a 14.0 quarter mile, please leave and join some other forum. To think we could be losing good sponsorships or people looking for info and events related to DSMs because of these threads is horrible.

Jared/ Herod/ Satan I am sorry that you ever came to this site thinking it was a place to express your point of view, but after all I am probably being close minded.

[Tauni]

So Haredx doesn't have a DSM. Please understand this. Sometimes discussions like this should be had. Drugs and drinking are important topics that should be discussed to an extent. But why would you join a site where everyone has a common hobby, just to join into this specific topic, and say that all of our views are worthless and that we are all close-minded. Let me explain something to you. In my opinion, as I'm sure a lot of other people on this site feel the same, it is down right fucking RUDE to come on to a site for people who enjoy the same hobby, then procede to call us all close minded and bash our opinions. You are just as bad as any REAL stoner. Not just Occasional pot smokers. Face it. You are a stoner. And as far as I'm concerned, you are just as bad as the retards who do NOTHING with their life, which Alex has seemed to spell out for us quite well. So next time someone on a topic specific forum brings up any kind of drugs, please refrain from picking up that bong, step away from the computer, and leave people the fuck alone. I'm sorry to be so rude on the site, but honestly. It's extremely disrespectful. Especially with AJ saying we may have lost some sort of sponsor. That makes me ashamed I was even in this conversation.

Drugs are not worth it. So get over it. It's pointless.

[94talonawd]

Beer!

[Tauni]

Originally Posted by 94talonawd

Beer!

Shmirnoff!