12-03-2012
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formerly ecoli
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Re: beaterX project thread
I would do a leakdown test. It won't tell everything, but might help you decide if you are going to pull the head. If the valve seats are compressed, then you might also have worn valve guides, which can cause more oil usage or even cause one of the valve guide seals to get knocked out of place.
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12-03-2012
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#1202
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: beaterX project thread
I agree with Shane on the leakdown test. At least it gives you something concrete to analyze, I know in our professional lives we have a common consensus that data is king and no smart/intelligent decision can be made without it!
I’m speculating the sparkplug failure event could have messed up a cylinder wall a little, that would be worse case??
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12-16-2012
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#1203
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Well the weather outside is frightful, leakdown/compression numbers are trightful, let it go let it go let it go
Evo leakdown results:
1- 50% air from intake & exhaust
2- 50% air from intake & exhaust
3- 20% no leak at all*
4- 50% air from intake &exhaust
Cold compression
110 140 130*110
Walkin in an Evo wonderlaaaaaaaand.
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12-16-2012
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#1204
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: beaterX project thread
Those numbers sadden me
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12-16-2012
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: beaterX project thread
still seemed to make good power for that kind of results if you want to look at the positives
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12-16-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Those numbers sadden me
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Originally Posted by C3L1CA
still seemed to make good power for that kind of results if you want to look at the positives
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hell yea! Plus it's 'just' the head. Making plans now for when to get it yanked off, fixed, and re-installed.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-16-2012
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#1207
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Re: beaterX project thread
It's a dsm, let r buck
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12-16-2012
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#1208
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Reynolds number user
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Re: beaterX project thread
mighty putty??
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12-16-2012
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#1209
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Halon
It's a dsm, let r buck
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Heh! Problem is the car just sounds like shit. It sounds like a diesel until its fully warmed up and oil hot and even then it's not right.
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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!
mighty putty??
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Yes but where to put it, the coolant or the oil?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-17-2012
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#1210
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: beaterX project thread
Low compression = Moar boost = No more problem
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12-17-2012
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#1211
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Re: beaterX project thread
Ouch...
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12-17-2012
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#1212
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Who has my man-card?
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Re: beaterX project thread
Sucky dude
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12-17-2012
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#1213
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Pewp Champion
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Re: beaterX project thread
2jz swap. Found you a whole engine for under 1k !
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12-17-2012
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#1214
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formerly ecoli
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Re: beaterX project thread
Time for a valve job.
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12-17-2012
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#1215
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: beaterX project thread
Time for a valve job, maybe some better valves too? Are the factory X valves SS and do they have bronze guides?
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12-17-2012
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#1216
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
Low compression = Moar boost = No more problem
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Heh, I did that already, see fall dyno day thread
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Originally Posted by Halon
2jz swap. Found you a whole engine for under 1k !
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Hell yes!
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
Time for a valve job.
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Originally Posted by Mark Leasure
Time for a valve job, maybe some better valves too? Are the factory X valves SS and do they have bronze guides?
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Yea, thats the plan. Gonna get through the holidays and then rip the head off and try to get it fixed asap. The head already has supertech +1mm valves in it, not sure they'd be not good enough...
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-17-2012
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#1217
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: beaterX project thread
Supertechs are nice ones. They have been solid for me, I have the same ones and those have been through two motors on my car. I don't think quality or durability is the problem, at least with the valves, maybe another weak point?
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12-17-2012
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#1218
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: beaterX project thread
What springs do you have Murlo?
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12-17-2012
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#1219
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Kracka
What springs do you have Murlo?
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Supertechs.
I was going to do Manley's with my build but for whatever reason the Manley ones for the 4b11 are not "manly" and couldn't support the lift on my cams.
edit: sorry for going OT.
Scheides what springs do you have again? Maybe that is your issue? I doubt it though.
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12-17-2012
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#1220
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: beaterX project thread
I think his are the same as yours; that was my initial hypothesis.
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