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**scheides** · 09-23-2012

Lancer? You might juuuust liiiike it!

**JET** · 09-24-2012

The sonata is a solid choice, my uncle has one and loves it. He puts a ton of miles on it too for work. Altima might be another good one to check out, but is more money than the sonata. The Cruze ECO has been getting killer reviews too.

turbotalon1g · 09-24-2012

I was just reading a car and driver and they rated the kia higher, same car but the kia has a lot nicer interior and comes with every option possible on those cars at no extra charge. I think they look great too.

**Kracka** · 09-24-2012

^Definitely. If you like the Hyundai, also check out the Kia version since they're the same cars, but Kias are generally cheaper and include more standard options.

**Halon** · 09-24-2012

My opinion, they both have their ups and downs. Overall I equally like them in the end. They have really stepped up their game and make some nice cars now. I've been comparing these along with the fusion and malibu when I get them as rentals for the last couple years now as possible new cars for my wife to replace her Mazda 6. All the ones I've driven were 4cyl. Heres my thoughts on them.

Optima: better exterior, interior feels dated, rear seats uncomfortable, drove really nice.
Sonata: decent exterior, much nicer/modern interior, heavy gas pedal makes accelerating from a stop kind of lurchy.

My personal favorite all around so far has been the Malibu, for whatever its worth. Doesn't stand out in any one category, but overall I like it as a whole more than the others.

**Trogdor** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by JET

The sonata is a solid choice, my uncle has one and loves it. He puts a ton of miles on it too for work. Altima might be another good one to check out, but is more money than the sonata. The Cruze ECO has been getting killer reviews too.

Who is giving the Cruze good reviews?! It's a fucking Daewoo*. I've read nothing but bad things about them, from recalls, to transmission failures.

*Okay, technically it's owned by Chevy now. But the old Daewoo plant, and all of its engineers were bought by Chevy - It's still a Daewoo.

**Halon** · 09-24-2012

Have you driven a modern Daewoo, or are you judging them by their crap they built in the 90's? They are similar to Hyundai and KIA. They used to make crap boxes but their new stuff is much nicer. We often get Daewoo's as rentals when we are overseas. I'd take one over a Galant or Lancer.

**Tachyon** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Trogdor

Who is giving the Cruze good reviews?! It's a fucking Daewoo*. I've read nothing but bad things about them, from recalls, to transmission failures.

*Okay, technically it's owned by Chevy now. But the old Daewoo plant, and all of its engineers were bought by Chevy - It's still a Daewoo.

Are they still sourcing their engines from Holden?

-Sincerely a Daewoo driver.

**Kracka** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Halon

My personal favorite all around so far has been the Malibu, for whatever its worth. Doesn't stand out in any one category, but overall I like it as a whole more than the others.

I had a Malibu as a rental when I was up in MN last month and you're right, there's nothing amazing about it, but it's a decent all-around basic car.

Super Bleeder!! · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Tachyon

Are they still sourcing their engines from Holden?

-Sincerely a Daewoo driver.

Doesnt Holden use GM engines?

**Tachyon** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!

Doesnt Holden use GM engines?

It really depends on year and application. Modern-day, yes. Circa the year of my POS, the engines were influenced by GM, but build by Holden's foundry (in Australia) using cast iron.

turbotalon1g · 09-24-2012

Wait, evo?

**Murlo26** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Wait, evo?

Thought about it, Evo 8 RS comes to mind

However, that isn't reliable, nor good gas mileage and will become racecar. I'd have to keep my honda to get that haha.

turbotalon1g · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Thought about it, Evo 8 RS comes to mind

However, that isn't reliable, nor good gas mileage and will become racecar. I'd have to keep my honda to get that haha.

Really? There seem to be guys with good amount of miles on theres with no crazy issues. Mileage isn't the greatest though.

FRS coupe? I'd hit it!

**Trogdor** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Halon

Have you driven a modern Daewoo, or are you judging them by their crap they built in the 90's?

Yes, I've had this misfortune of driving several of them ranging from the Suzuki Forenza, Suzuki Verona, Chevy Aveo, Chevy Cruze (both non-eco and Eco). The only one I don't really have a gripe about is the new small SUV they're making for Chevy Captiva (it's basically a Saturn Vue/Chevy Equinox) as a fleet only car.

**Goat Blower** · 09-24-2012

I haven't been impressed by any new GM products I've rented lately except for the Tahoes. The rest are generally crapboxes. I really like the new Fords though, I was most impressed by the Taurus, second the new Exploder.

**Trogdor** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower

I haven't been impressed by any new GM products I've rented lately except for the Tahoes. The rest are generally crapboxes. I really like the new Fords though, I was most impressed by the Taurus, second the new Exploder.

I would agreed with you. I've been really surprised by those two focuses? foci? that we have. If my evo was paid off, I would buy one in a heart beat.

I was impressed by the new Exploder too. They're quite nice.

rose0529 · 09-24-2012

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I've been really surprised by those two focuses? foci? that we have. If my evo was paid off, I would buy one in a heart beat.

Really? I hated driving the one we rented. It stumbled over its self trying to start from a stop every time. It got good gas mileage and was reasonably comfy, but it also had bad blind spots (hatch). Might just be me, or the one I drove, but it was just annoying to drive.

**Trogdor** · 09-25-2012

Could just be the one you drove? Was it at 2012? Both of the ones we have here are sedans and run just fine. I was quite surprised by the pick up the car has for a 2.0L.

**JET** · 09-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Trogdor

Who is giving the Cruze good reviews?! It's a fucking Daewoo*. I've read nothing but bad things about them, from recalls, to transmission failures.

*Okay, technically it's owned by Chevy now. But the old Daewoo plant, and all of its engineers were bought by Chevy - It's still a Daewoo.

Your bias gets pretty sickening at times. If it isn't on your lot, then it sucks... until you get one in. This is rating the higher mileage cars as an enthusiast would.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...olet-cruze-eco