Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.

[Goat Blower]

[1ViciousGSX]

It's funny how I posted showing bias and data manipulation 2 pages ago in this thread (post #24) and it just gets ignored. I can't wait until the truth comes out that "climate change" = political/economic manipulation and population control. If the science is settled, why not let the science do the talking?
More reading http://www.climatechangefacts.info/

[AwdGSX13]

double post oops

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[Goat Blower]

Science.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...lobal-warming/

[tpunx99GSX]

Wow, Fox new picking the one defector.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...e-action-plan/

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Wow, Fox new picking the one defector.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...e-action-plan/

Right, just one (1) defector,... try 31,000+

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...consensus-not/

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Right, just one (1) defector,... try 31,000+

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...consensus-not/

You are quoting a story from 2012.
I am quoting a story from 2 days ago. where 36 nobel winning physists wrote that "“If left unchecked, our ever-increasing demand for food, water, and energy will eventually overwhelm the Earth’s ability to satisfy humanity’s needs, and will lead to wholesale human tragedy,” the Nobel laureates’ declaration reads. “Already, scientists who study Earth’s climate are observing the impact of human activity.”

[1ViciousGSX]

The story is still relevant today,... there is no clear cut consensus on climate change, well except that it does change, which is a natural cycle for the Earth.

Would that shortage of water be related to California shutting off millions of gallons of fresh water to farmers, that is leading to a food shortage because the farmers can't irrigate their dead/dying crops,...?

Or the fact the coal energy production has been put in a choke hold by the EPA which will result in less available energy,...?

I don't want to hear a thing about the "fears" of climate change as long as our government allows China to pollute like it does unchecked while allowing their cheap merchandise into the country with no penalties for pollution.

Look past the climate discussion and see the power/money manipulation going on. A lot of this comes from the fact that the extreme left wants the world populations reduced in numbers by a large percentage. What better way to do it than through man made shortages of resources, war and disease? All three of which are currently being used.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

The story is still relevant today,... there is no clear cut consensus on climate change, well except that it does change, which is a natural cycle for the Earth.

Would that shortage of water be related to California shutting off millions of gallons of fresh water to farmers, that is leading to a food shortage because the farmers can't irrigate their dead/dying crops,...?

Or the fact the coal energy production has been put in a choke hold by the EPA which will result in less available energy,...?

I don't want to hear a thing about the "fears" of climate change as long as our government allows China to pollute like it does unchecked while allowing their cheap merchandise into the country with no penalties for pollution.

Look past the climate discussion and see the power/money manipulation going on. A lot of this comes from the fact that the extreme left wants the world populations reduced in numbers by a large percentage. What better way to do it than through man made shortages of resources, war and disease? All three of which are currently being used.

There is a clear cut consensus actually. I dont think you can get any more clear cut than what scientists say about man made climate change.
Secondly just because china does it, does not mean we should do it and add to it. By your logic we should have no child labor laws, or 40 hour work week, or minimum hourly wage, hell why not bring back slavery, and be slaves to manufacturers like FoxConn.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Would that shortage of water be related to California shutting off millions of gallons of fresh water to farmers, that is leading to a food shortage because the farmers can't irrigate their dead/dying crops,...?

Or the fact the coal energy production has been put in a choke hold by the EPA which will result in less available energy,...?

Sorry i forgot to address these fun little nuggets.

Sorry when there isnt enough water, there needs to be across the board cuts including farmers. They are in a freakin drought. its either cut back or go completely drained.

Secondly, Coal energy is the dirtiest energy being produced so of course there needs to be regulation by the EPA. Its so that we can breath clean air. Or are you anti clean breathing air?
Doubt youll get the reference but heres your future.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Sorry i forgot to address these fun little nuggets.

Sorry when there isnt enough water, there needs to be across the board cuts including farmers. They are in a freakin drought. its either cut back or go completely drained.

Secondly, Coal energy is the dirtiest energy being produced so of course there needs to be regulation by the EPA. Its so that we can breath clean air. Or are you anti clean breathing air?
Doubt youll get the reference but heres your future.

Here's a couple of nuggets for you,....

First off, there's no shortage of water in CA that isn't man made. Look into the 81 billion (BILLION!) gallons of fresh water being dumped into the ocean because of the EPA and the Delta Smelt. That could be pumped to farmers and cities.

http://www.pacificlegal.org/cases/Wa...constitutional

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-by-democrats/

Secondly, it looks like the Delta Smelt is going extinct due to influences beyond our control.

There are four significant threats to the species:

• direct entrainments by State and Federal water export facilities;
• summer and fall increases in salinity, NOTHING TO DUE WITH MANKIND - SO HOW DO YOU STOP IT?
• summer and fall increases in water clarity, NOTHING TO DO WITH MANKIND - SO HOW DO YOU STOP IT?
• Effects from introduced species. - MAYBE MANKIND, MAYBE NOT

http://www.fws.gov/sfbaydelta/species/delta_smelt.cfm

We have at least two out of four threats to the Delta Smelt that we have no control over and can't stop. So regardless of pumping stations or not, farmers or not, the fish will go extinct because the water conditions in it's waters are naturally changing. Same has happened throughout the history of the world, some species die off through natural progression, some adapt and survive.

As far as coal goes, I want clean air just as you do. And since China is pumping it out like there's no tomorrow (maybe they know something we don't), why kill of our industry to support theirs? We all breathe the same air and what China is doing will affect what we breathe here, there is no magical wall that stops that infiltration, just like our southern border.
I also understand the reality of the fact that there is nothing else that is readily available to take its place, well nothing that tree huggers haven't done their best to stop at every implementation (nuclear, wind, geo-thermal, hydro-electric, etc.). Solar is a good alternative and as soon as the powers that be figure out how to regulate and properly price sunshine to their advantage I'm sure it will become more widely used.

[SlowWhite]

Need reinstate Darwin's law.

Get government to stop making welfare a life style. And that would put a dent in the population issue.
Remove all illegal immigrants as well.