03-03-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
There is a lot you don't know, hence why you keep chasing some power level you can't handle and why your car consistently doesn't run.
Since you don't believe me ask ron, english racing or any of the other people that actually push stock motors rather than chasing the newest parts on the market.
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Right back at you there boss 
Ron is actually the one that talked me into doing aftermarket rods btw!
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-03-2014
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#62
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flips McGee
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
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oh nice.
That is gonna be sweet, this mean the beater X can go T3 or T4!!
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Nope, with the stock sleeves, the EF4 is the biggest turbo that car will ever see. It's laggy enough as it is. This car will....nevermind I've said it like 6 times already...
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-03-2014
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
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Right back at you there boss
Ron is actually the one that talked me into doing aftermarket rods btw! |
I took one year off and I bought a nice dd and a house.
Plus when my DSMs run I was averaging 30k a year multiple track visits and a ton of street racing time. You? Oh you raced a few times at pg. That's cool I guess.
How popular are those rods in 4 cyl applications? |
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03-03-2014
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
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The last thing I'll say is the whole '400wtq' thing is semi true, but as always when quoting dyno numbers, it depends on the dyno I ran '400wtq' or '450wtq' on my evo8 w/ stock bottom-end for...whatever I said above, 25k miles or so, and '370wtq' or '400wtq' for like 20k miles before that....that is about the limit though, I was happy and things looked just peachy when I pulled it apart...even after rolling through the ditch  |
This is what I was trying to say lol. And yes a built motor with a stock turbo will be so much fun. We'll be racing for tons of beers this summer Scheides!
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03-03-2014
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Who gets to drink more, winner or loser?
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03-03-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Spaz?
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03-03-2014
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
So for ballers like you and scheides with 2 cars is that like double the anty?
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03-12-2014
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
When's it going to be done? Goals with this one?
I agree with Ron too. If the engine is out of the car, then throw rods/pistons in it! I did drop ins back in the day, worked well.
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03-28-2014
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flips McGee
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Alrighty! We're in the home stretch now!
So, first off, the molnor H-beam rods are out. Backorder, and after staring down the bad-ass Wiseco HD's I was putting in the block I caved. Manley Turbo Tuff I-beams are on their way in. I'm excited to try these, they are pretty bad ass! I've had MAP/Howard X-beams in my X and these things are right on par. SO nice!
Transmission. Gah. Way more than I expected. Needed a new 3rd gear synchro and sleeve, 2nd gear sleeve, 5th/reverse sleeve, reverse syncro, and a new reverse gear. On top of that, 4th gear will be swapped out for an evo8 4th so it will be a little taller for street shenans and drag racing. I'm excited for a trans that is minty fresh!!! The car already has a short-shifter in it and copper underhood shifterbushings so this should be pretty hawt.
Clutch? 6-puck! Ummm yea. Again, I caved. Exedy Twin...
Back to the block...it was a two week ordeal with the machine shop, I don't even know all what was done but its a miracle...block is trash! block is a-ok! block is trash! block is....wait...yup! Block is a-ok! Crank fits in real nice, rings need to be fitted and...off we go!
I have a box-o-racing goodies ready to go in this thing too, brake ducts, 4-point harness, etc...this is gonna be a fun spring/summer!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-28-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Nice update! Hopefully I get to see it this summer.
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03-28-2014
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Who has my man-card?
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Bummer about the trans... it seemed to shift nice still!  Glad they saved the block it looks nice a fresh! Cant wait to see you rip in this thing! |
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03-28-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Awesome update!
Badass new parts are badass
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03-28-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Kick ass, looks like a good setup! Stock crank, right?
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03-28-2014
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#74
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
OMGZ those parts, so jelly. Hats off to you sir, this thing is going to be legendary!
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03-28-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Got damn! Thing is gonna be badass!
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I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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03-28-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Nice update, Ron must be going to town on that thing. Explains why he never got back to me I suppose lol.
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03-28-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
Bad ass.
You told me act twin to start. Make up your mind. Lol
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03-28-2014
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
So far so good, very nice progress!
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03-28-2014
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flips McGee
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
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Kick ass, looks like a good setup! Stock crank, right?
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Yup! This will be a 2.0L. I thought about doing a 2.3 but in the end KISS.
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OMGZ those parts, so jelly. Hats off to you sir, this thing is going to be legendary!
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Thanks! Stock turbo to start with and we'll see where it goes from there. I hope to have some sort of aftermarket snail on it pretty quick since the car has enough fuel system for at least a BBK/EF2.5/Green but I'm thinking the EF3 will likely be where I land with it for the near future...but my main focus for this car will be track time. Wanna go fast!
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Nice update, Ron must be going to town on that thing. Explains why he never got back to me I suppose lol.
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Yea between his trip to cali with others and the shop full of cars (mine isn't even in there most of the time) I'm sure he's swamped. I'm trying to get this thing out of his hair, probably next week or so.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-29-2014
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#80
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: Project Black ValentNine
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my main focus for this car will be track time.
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You going to give road racing a try?
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