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Old 06-12-2008   #41
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Re: Do not idle for more than 3 minutes or else..

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One of my instructors here at school, who worked for Toyota for 20 years and was a Prius Tech, said that the government gives Toyota America like $60,000 for each Prius they sell. So in reality, if the government and shit wasn't all about saving the environment too, a hybrid would cost like $80,000+!!!
I really hope thats not true, what a waste of money
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Old 06-12-2008   #42
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Re: Do not idle for more than 3 minutes or else..

Yea, when he said that, I thought, no fucking way is that possible, but I guess that the technology in those cars is so ridiculous, it's ridiculously expensive. I'm gonna look more into this, but I'm pretty sure he's not bullshittin'.
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Thats fucked up. Please let us know if you can find more data backing that claim up.
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Old 06-17-2008   #44
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Re: Do not idle for more than 3 minutes or else..

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They kinda do this in a hybrid already. Everything is electric so you don't need the engine running to control your power steering, brakes, etc. And when you get to 15mph, the IC engine fires and off ya go, but you wouldn't need a separate motor to "spin up" the IC engine, that's why they have starters, which does that. It's just so fucking expensive to put in nearly 100% of cars today, it wouldn't be cost effective to stay in business. One of my instructors here at school, who worked for Toyota for 20 years and was a Prius Tech, said that the government gives Toyota America like $60,000 for each Prius they sell. So in reality, if the government and shit wasn't all about saving the environment too, a hybrid would cost like $80,000+!!! Kinda off topic I guess...

And plus, a lot of companies are now implementing technology that makes the engines (with the exceptions of 4 cyls for now) run on half the cylinders under cerrtain condtions, so there's a pollution control. (new honda v6 and GM v8s in trucks and the corvette) Plus, wouldn't constantly shutting off and starting an engine be hell on it? I know the hybrids do this, but they run 1 liter engines, which aren't big and heavy enough to really have a lot of weight or mass to be taking that abuse. That's something else to think about.
I am glad the GOV does this, this type of funding is what creates the future. I believe they are making leaps and bounds with battery technology, once they get it things will be different. It will no longer be necessary to scrap an electrice car because the cost of a battery is not worth replacing!!! Just as long as forign investors and goverments stop inserting their intrests on progress!

More data.. I have heard the cost of replacing a battery is more expensive then scraping the car and making a new one. Does anyone know, "do they only lease battery cars or can you own them"?

And if water for gas is a crock, what is ethenol, like 3gallons of water for 1 gallon of gas. I guess we do have alot of salt water.

And does anyone know more about alege diesel?http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9965683-54.html http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/solazyme-...t-us-standard/
Oh wait, alege for oil.. oh yea that's what the solution was. What are the effects of burning alege? They feed alege sugar.

"And plus, a lot of companies are now implementing technology that makes the engines (with the exceptions of 4 cyls for now) run on half the cylinders under cerrtain condtions, so there's a pollution control."

I believe they have been doing this for years, cadillac had a car a long time ago that shut cylinders off, it is a really good idea.
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