For those that care.... - Page 2

niterydr · 12-15-2005

Hoop is in and hidden, on to the rear bars.
I am going for a safe street car

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niterydr · 12-16-2005

And that is why you custom make a roll cage to YOU and your vehicle.
Good luck buying a kit that fits this good.
We are calling it a night. Thanks for the votes all!

Outlaw1 · 12-16-2005

I like street cars. I have built many, many, many 10 second cars without rollbars. Why would I do that you ask? I'll try to explain it best I can. This is gonna get lengthy so feel free to pass it up and dismiss it as jibberish.

Back home we have a huge street car scene. 4/5 years ago a large group of local cars got together and made a three hour drive to a relatively new track in San Antonio. All of the cars were NHRA legal with rollbars, etc., and were trailered. Except one. One looked like a bone stock '98 SS Camaro.
Out of the group, two of the other street cars ran faster than me. One was a super gutted 2,800lb '88 GT with a 608RWHP blown 306 that pulled a 1.48 60' and ran a 10.50 @ 138 with a five speed. BTW, I set the chassis up on that car and with an automatic it pulled LOW 1.3x sixty foots. Secondly, there was a 3,000lb '84 GT with a 351 crate motor, 300HP nitrous kit and a t-braked auto. He ran a 10.58. Both cars ran race fuel. Granted, those aren't the fastest street cars in the world, but these are cars that hit the street scene nearly every weekend and both now run deep into the nines.
I drove a '98 SS Camaro 200 miles to the track, swapped tires (26x10 Hoosier DOT's) and immediately got in line. With horrible track prep and straight off of the interstate I ran a 10.60 @ 128mph on the bottle. I ran two 11.60's @ 123 on the motor back to back. Then sprayed another 10.60 @ 128. Yes, the bottle mph is low. The 60' on motor was super weak, on the bottle it was in the high 1.5's, still spinning it's butt off. The programming in the PCM would not let the engine spin over 6,600. With the 26" tall tires, I was turning the bottle off and shutting down very early. I had to drive this thing home, ya know!
After swapping the stock SS wheels back onto the Camaro, I drove 200 miles back home and passed every single trailered car in the process. The A/C was blowing cold, stereo was blasting, all while enjoying the P/S, P/W, P/L and fully loaded leather interior. Street car!
Who do you think enjoyed their cars more? The gutted street cars that had to be trailered to the track, or the stock appearing street car...? Don't lose sight of your goals. If you want to build a compeditive race car, have the funds and desire, go for it! If you want something you can enjoy, build it that way. With either decision, hope it turns out well for you.

niterydr · 12-16-2005

Good point super, mine is just a street car with a cage.

**Goat Blower** · 12-16-2005

You can run at the track all you want. There's a big difference between being able to make enough power to run 8's and actually running them. Unless you're backhalfing the car and putting in a glide and a 9", I wouldn't worry about breaking into the 8's with that configuration anytime soon.

niterydr · 12-16-2005

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You can run at the track all you want. There's a big difference between being able to make enough power to run 8's and actually running them. Unless you're backhalfing the car and putting in a glide and a 9", I wouldn't worry about breaking into the 8's with that configuration anytime soon.

Yup.
With this cage, I'll never get sent home, now its up to me to break shit and have to go home. I am putting it in for the MPH (150), not the et. There is a chance the stealth could eventually get to 150mph traps, but a 8.50? LOL, not at is 3500+lb race weight.

**Goat Blower** · 12-16-2005

I think the tracks are more leniant on MPH than ET. I don't think they'll jump out of the timing shack if you run 137 with a 6-point. :-)

I'm only adding one bar to make mine a six-point, and if things go well next spring, I'll be looking to do better than 135mph myself. I'll wait til they kick me out before I go putting in more stuff this time.

Shotgun! · 12-16-2005

I voted street car. I think you know how much I love to street thing. You can make money on the street and you can be unbeatable. Street racing is where it's at. Whatever you do, do not make it a "track only" car. Those are just jokes. (I'm not talking about Johns up coming project). I'm talking about Buschur's POS Conquest/Eclipses and other retarded Chevy/Mitsu/Dodge/whatever crap...
Tens are only useful on the street. Nines, more so.

MustGoFaster · 12-16-2005

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Originally Posted by Grey Wulf

Tens are only useful on the street. Nines, more so.

Word!

Black97civic · 12-16-2005

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Originally Posted by Grey Wulf

I'm talking about Buschur's POS Conquest/Eclipses and other retarded Chevy/Mitsu/Dodge/whatever crap...

Couldn't agree more with the hybrid setups.

Conquest with 4g63, powerglide tranny, and ford 9" rear end. You might as well have a tube chassis fiberglass body and go faster.

But I have seen some pretty sick cages in "street" cars that wouldn't make it too ridiculous for a somewhat daily driver. And yeah, 10 second street car = cool as shit 10 second track car = I hope it broke down at the 1/8 mile mark.

Edit: Swanny, purely hypothetical here, but what would something like your cage cost??

Pushit2.0 · 12-17-2005

To do an 8point Chrome Moly roll cage, cetified to run an 8.50@150mph or slower costs $2900.00. That is NHRA certified and will be custom made for you and your car. Then you will need a 5point harness, helmet, fire jacket, fire pants, gloves, window net, etc.

~John

torbs · 12-18-2005

As long as the 8.50 second car is street legal, I'd pick that anyday over just a normal street car. Then again, I've always been one of those guys that'd rather go fast than have looks/comfort. Must be a 1g DSM owner thing haha. Like they say, if you want to go fast cheaply, get a 1g. If you wanna get chicks and have more money to spend, get a 2g. I'm a broke ass so I'm stuck with the 1g thing for awhile.