12-02-2008
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
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Originally Posted by jhaan_dude
ice minion has my magnus street, im sure you can borrow it from him
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Drop him a line if you would.
Even if you see that we already have your manifold for testing, please, volunteer if you are willing. I want to test a few doubles too, to see how consistant they are. I know this might be getting a little anal, but its not much more work to test a few extra!
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12-02-2008
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#22
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Are you testing more to find equal distribution or flow?
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12-02-2008
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#23
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
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Originally Posted by ecoli
Are you testing more to find equal distribution or flow?
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Both
For my own needs, I am concerned about equal flow. However, the total capable flow is also important when judging what intake best suits your individual setup.
Blageo23 AND 95talonracer are in
There has also been a request for a old style magnus w/o stacks.
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Last edited by iroc_g; 12-02-2008 at 02:06 PM..
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12-02-2008
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#24
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
I have a really old Magnus with the silicon runners that isn't being used. The runners aren't even close to lining up with each other, but it made great power.
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12-02-2008
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#25
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Hell, that might be interesting. That thing has to be old!
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12-02-2008
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#26
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aka Goodbye
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Oh yeah, adjustable length stacks yo!
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12-02-2008
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back in the saddle again
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
What are you guys testing this on? (equipment) and at what flow levels?
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12-02-2008
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
It is a super flow bench, and we will be testing everything at 28", as this is the standard most shops use.
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12-02-2008
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#29
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
B man I will taxi it and I can do talonracer as well cause he lives north of me.
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12-02-2008
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#30
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
B man I will taxi it and I can do talonracer as well cause he lives north of me.
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I was actually going to say that I could take mine and halon's manifolds down there but if you want to grab them then thats cool.
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12-02-2008
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#31
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
I've got an old style magnus w/o stacks, but it's in my car and I drive it every day, so I can't really be without it. If you had done this a few months ago I would have been down to let you flow it, as I could have just rode my motorcycle.
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12-02-2008
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#32
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Whomever wants to deliver mine, I don't care. Just call me or PM me or something and tell me WHEN!
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12-02-2008
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#33
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
If kerry is going to go then he can drop it off.
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12-02-2008
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#34
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
MORE NEWS!
This whole deal is getting bigger than I expected.
I had a lengthy talk with the folks at Beyond Redline today. I sent them an email this morning, asking for their participation, and they called me whithin 2 hours. Last month, they released a new SMIM for DSM's, and make some pretty bold claims about what it is capable of. Look for yourself, http://www.beyondredline.com/store/i...products_id=21
After discussing with them the details about what i have found so far, and the discussions I have had with other vendors, they agreed to send me one to test.
I am very happy to get some vendor suport on this. They too were glad that a completely independant source was willing to do this, as there can be no bias in any direction.
We are also talking about doing a dyno shootout to follow up the flow testing. We have not worked out any details to this yet, as that would be premature. I am hoping that I can get Magnus as well as JMF to supply manifolds for testing for this. Reason being, it will be at least a month or so before we are ready to get to that point, and I have a feeling nobody is going to want to leave their manifold off that long, or take it back off. Anybody that may be willing, let me know just in case.
So, I have added Beyond Redline to the list. As soon as I start getting SMIM's, Ill get flowing!!!
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12-03-2008
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#35
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Well I wont need mine until say around February so whatever works for you.
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12-03-2008
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#36
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
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Originally Posted by iroc_g
MORE NEWS!
This whole deal is getting bigger than I expected.
I had a lengthy talk with the folks at Beyond Redline today. I sent them an email this morning, asking for their participation, and they called me whithin 2 hours. Last month, they released a new SMIM for DSM's, and make some pretty bold claims about what it is capable of. Look for yourself, http://www.beyondredline.com/store/i...products_id=21
After discussing with them the details about what i have found so far, and the discussions I have had with other vendors, they agreed to send me one to test.
I am very happy to get some vendor suport on this. They too were glad that a completely independant source was willing to do this, as there can be no bias in any direction.
We are also talking about doing a dyno shootout to follow up the flow testing. We have not worked out any details to this yet, as that would be premature. I am hoping that I can get Magnus as well as JMF to supply manifolds for testing for this. Reason being, it will be at least a month or so before we are ready to get to that point, and I have a feeling nobody is going to want to leave their manifold off that long, or take it back off. Anybody that may be willing, let me know just in case.
So, I have added Beyond Redline to the list. As soon as I start getting SMIM's, Ill get flowing!!!
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That beyond redline one looks pretty interesting. Really freakin expensive though. Especially if you add the polished surface. Never heard of them before.
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12-03-2008
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#37
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: edward lake
Drives: toaster
Posts: 6,431
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
I have the one on the evo III but it is 2g style
it is all cast alum
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12-03-2008
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#38
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
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Posts: 7,983
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
I would do a stock 1g manifold too, just for a baseline.
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12-03-2008
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#39
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
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Originally Posted by TkrPerformance
I have the one on the evo III but it is 2g style
it is all cast alum
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TKR: I really would like to test that one as well. I know its for the wrong head flange, but I have a feeling that the angled entry and curved plenum is ideal. Ive been trying to find one of that design to test, but to no avail!
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12-03-2008
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#40
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AWD4G64
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
If someone could pick my manifold up too that would be great. Its sitting at primo performance.
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