12-07-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
I can definitely see the point of running just a single fuel pump. I have seen too many stories of people losing one pump and popping an engine because one of the two went out. It runs fine until high boost, then all hell breaks loose as it goes super lean.
I know when I was looking at what pump to put in my car I was looking at the A1000 and there were quite a few bad stories about it so I went with an 044 planning to add a second one later, but never got that far. The eliminator looks like a slightly bigger A1000, but I have no idea if they have any better parts inside.
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12-07-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Jay racing 044 pull less amps and flow more than the original Bosch 044.
Plus you have the V2 and it has a fuel safe or lean cut if one pump we're to fail.
Wait I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since MAP sponsors you they should give you the pump or pumps you want for free!!!!!!
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12-07-2012
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#303
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
The a1000 and Eliminator look the same, the Eliminator is black and has a bigger inlet.
I know another guy in a mustang ran the Eliminator on the street with no voltage controller for 20,000 miles.
My pump is wired up on a 30amp relay and fuse with no issues.
I looked at the magnafuel pumps and the few I saw were limited on Max pressure to 80psi. With base fuel pressure of 45-50psi and 45-50psi of boost that's a 100psi of fuel pressure.
I figured if my Eliminator is not enough then a BAP will be installed.
And MAP will get you a great price on what ever route you go, maybe ask them for any other ideas.
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12-17-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
I had a good weekend, worked on the car on Saturday for about 8 hrs. I co-located all of my gauges in the fabricated instrument cluster.
Im going to cover up all of the old gauge location holes. I have not wired everything yet. About the wiring, I removed all of the unnecessary wiring that was just dead weight. I left all of the critical ECU functions and lighting wiring (headlights/parking, brake, turn signals, and reverse lights). I weighed everything after I was done removing it and it came up to 43 pounds!
I also picked up a 7/8 tandem master cylinder to remove the power brake booster too, I dont know what the booster weighs, but if anything it will clear up the engine bay. I'm kicking around the idea of having the engine bay painted too, since almost everything has been removed.
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12-17-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Nice, very impressive weight saving
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12-17-2012
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#306
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Yeah, I remember just getting rid of the ABS pump and wiring was an easy 50 lbs. Every bit makes a difference.
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12-17-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Nice progress. I'd say go for it, paint the engine bay. I was personally on the fence a lot lately about cleaning things up on my car, getting things coated, etc. And once they were done, there was no more question and I was so glad I did it!
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12-17-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Paint it up FOSHOOO
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12-17-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
43 pounds! Goddamn, I didn't relize you had that much more to rip out of this thing!
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12-17-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Hell Yes!
I know the 1G's are horrible for wiring efficiencies; I was kind of shocked when I weighed everything out! Even more weight is going to come out of it. I havent even touched the doors yet, the factory crash beams are still there too! I cannot remember what the weight was the last time it was on the scale at BIR with me in it, but I know it was in the 27XX range and Im about 210 with all the safety gear/helmet??? I should borrow someone's corner scales to find out for sure, but 43lbs so far is not bad!!!
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12-18-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
I can't believe you can keep pulling more weight out of this thing, but I love it!
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12-19-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Yeah, the weight removal is going good. The doors and the manual brake conversion are next. I found a set of manual crank window assemblies that I purchased. Im going to run lexan on the door glass but still have the ability to crank them down for very limited street driving, and it keeps it in street classes too. I'll hang onto the OEM glass just in case of classing restrictions too. Ill also take out the crash beams and any anything else possible from the doors. Ill keep track of the door project weight reduction too.
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12-20-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Any estimate for how much weight you have pulled out of it this winter?
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12-20-2012
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#314
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
The door beams weigh a bit, but not that much. It was probably about 2lbs each. The black tar paper/sound deadening stuff on the floor was more than that. Not sure if you have tackled that yet or not.
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12-20-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
I remember Shep saying something back in the day about the power window assemblies weighing hardly anything more than the manual ones. Speedglass side windows would make a difference though.
There's a lot of inner structure around the b-pillars down where the ABS computer used to be. Not sure how much of that you can take out, but there's definitely some fat to trim there.
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12-21-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
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The door beams weigh a bit, but not that much. It was probably about 2lbs each. The black tar paper/sound deadening stuff on the floor was more than that. Not sure if you have tackled that yet or not.
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I was looking around and no one actually publishes the actual weight of the door bracing, but from some of the banter and judging by material thickness it looks to be north of 10 lbs each. I'll weigh them when I remove them and publish it.
Yep most of the deadening material has been removed too, I still have some left on the fire wall to remove. I exposed it after I took the HVAC box out.
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I remember Shep saying something back in the day about the power window assemblies weighing hardly anything more than the manual ones. Speedglass side windows would make a difference though.
There's a lot of inner structure around the b-pillars down where the ABS computer used to be. Not sure how much of that you can take out, but there's definitely some fat to trim there.
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They are light, but I removed the factory harness and I'm not going to power the doors for window functions. Both crank assemblies are around 3 lbs! I'll check into the ABS stuff, good recommendation!
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12-21-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
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Any estimate for how much weight you have pulled out of it this winter?
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50 ish so far? The goal is the car into the 24XX range with out me in it. Should make it faster and easier on the drive train too.
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12-21-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
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I was looking around and no one actually publishes the actual weight of the door bracing, but from some of the banter and judging by material thickness it looks to be north of 10 lbs each. I'll weigh them when I remove them and publish it.
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I am quite positive it wasn't anything close to that. I took mine out years ago and I remember thinking that all the work was definitely not worth it. I would guess it was about 5lbs each. The metal wasn't that thick for them. I didn't fully remove them though, just cut them off at the ends so I didn't have to drill the spot welds and possibly mess up the door skin.
Doing this saves 20lbs per door (factory glass is still in)-
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12-22-2012
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#319
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Just got the passenger side door weight reduction done. I weighed the crash beam and it came to just a little over 12 lbs. I took out the electric window motor and it weighed as much as both mechanical crank setups combined. Not that they weigh a lot. Ill post a pic as soon as photobuckets site starts working again. Drilling spot welds was easy, I just wrapped tape around a drill bit so it could not penetrate too far into the door. I used piano wire to break the adhesive bond between the crash beam and the door skin. Then an air body saw to remove the door metal and an angle grinder to cut the beam. It took around an hour and a half to get it all wrapped up. Not bad for that type of weight savings!
I also took the brake booster out, it was a little lighter than what I expected at around 8 lbs. I need to machine an adaptor bracket to fit up the other master cylinder I ordered.
So far so good!
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12-22-2012
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Re: Mark's 1G Winter Projects
Picture of door work
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