07-02-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-02-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
BBKB Swap city at CBRD this week!
This is versus a Tomei turbo. Turbo swap and injector change, that's it:
MAYBE it was a bunk Tomei turbo, who knows. The results are impressive for this guy though. WOW!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-02-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
^Get one soon
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07-02-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
^Get one soon
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This is for the evo4-9, not the X
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-02-2010
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#25
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Originally Posted by scheides
This is for the evo4-9, not the X
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The BBX is the largest stock-frame production turbo. You can guinea pig the larger ones if you like (hi Murlo )
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07-02-2010
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#26
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Originally Posted by mlomker
The BBX is the largest stock-frame production turbo. You can guinea pig the larger ones if you like (hi Murlo )
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I am all for being a test bunny if it saves me some dough
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07-02-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
Drunk posting again guys? Like I said, this thread is about an evo 8/9 turbo. Reverse scroll and such
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-02-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
No i know...I was just responding to Lomker.
I am still on my first drink
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07-03-2010
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E85=Win
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Willmar, MN
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
This Turbo WILL be on my car by next year
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341hp/344tq E-85 FTW
Shane Tune@ DB
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07-03-2010
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E85=Win
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
Drunk posting FTW woot
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341hp/344tq E-85 FTW
Shane Tune@ DB
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07-04-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Drunk posting FTW
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I was sober. I'm blaming Aaron.
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07-04-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
^Wat!!11
what did I do?
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07-04-2010
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E85=Win
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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I was sober. I'm blaming Aaron.
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i wasn't sober
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341hp/344tq E-85 FTW
Shane Tune@ DB
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10-18-2010
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#34
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flips McGee
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
This car was one of the testers for the beta BBK-XL. I've posted a couple threads about it before on here.
Now it has the final production version of the BBK-XL, the BBK-B.
Results where surprising.
2006 Evo GSR
Modifications:
GST 2.3L stroker
Oversized valves in head (no head porting)
3" Downpipe
3" Agency Power catback
RRE rally cat (resonated test pipe)
Titek V2 tubular 02 housing
Ported stock exhaust manifold
CBRD BBK-B turbo
GST open cone air filter
Perrin FMIC
AMS LICP
Synapse BOV
Cosworth M2 mivec cams
FIC "BlueMax" 1550cc injectors
AEM fuel Rail
AMS fuel return line
Denso IKH24 spark plugs (1 heat range colder)
BlaqOps Progressive double pumper system
GM 3 port boost solenoid using ECU-controlled boost
Stock ECU (Tephra V7 ROM)
Stock MAF
Stock Intake Manifold
Stock Upper IC pipes
E85
33-34psi peak, 30psi out the top
I decided to overlay both 3rd and 4th gear pulls to show the difference a gear makes in spool up, and because of that, the torque and area under the curve differences. Obviously after seeing this, you should always ask what gear a particular posted dyno chart was made in.
On this particular car, at 4300rpm, there was a 100 wtq difference between the gears. That nice 2.3L breathing much better with more exhaust gases to the turbo with earlier spool in 4th.
518 whp / 509 wtq in 4th gear
510 whp / 464 wtq in 3rd gear
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http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyn...brd-bbk-b.html
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-18-2010
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
jeezus
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FpGreen Powered. Stock motor E85
11.4
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10-18-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
It looks decent, not great for a 2.3L imo. Sure torque is more than what I have on my car, but spool is worse than my car and overall power is roughly the same.
I still think the black is the way to go on the 8/9's....antisurge housing ftw.
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10-19-2010
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
What can we expect this turbo to put out on an Evo 8 2.0 with pump gas? Seems that everyone always has E85 and larger displacement with MIVEC when posting dyno graphs.
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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10-19-2010
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#38
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flips McGee
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
I would use my evo8 as a base example. Figure about 300rpm spool loss so 25psi by about 4100rpm but an extra bump in power up top so maybe 380-400whp on pump gas and 440-460whp on alky/e85 (at DB). I was (and still am) gunning for 400whp on pump on that dyno, and thought a conservative tune with ~440whp on the stock bottom end would be just dandy.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-19-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Originally Posted by scheides
I would use my evo8 as a base example. Figure about 300rpm spool loss so 25psi by about 4100rpm but an extra bump in power up top so maybe 380-400whp on pump gas and 440-460whp on alky/e85 (at DB). I was (and still am) gunning for 400whp on pump on that dyno, and thought a conservative tune with ~440whp on the stock bottom end would be just dandy.
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Go FPblack, you will hit 400whp on pump I bet Problem solved.
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10-19-2010
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: CBRD BBK-B aka BBK-XL turbo
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Go FPblack, you will hit 400whp on pump I bet Problem solved.
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I'm just not sold that I want a turbo that big.
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03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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