Bypassing the clutch switch...

tpunx99GSX · 09-15-2006

Hey,
Just a quick question that i need to know right away...

In detail how do you bypass the clutch safety switch in a 2g, so that i dont have to push in the clutch to get it to start.
I would think it would be as simple as taking the plug out and connecting a wire from one pin on the plug to the other to essentially create a constant connection on the wires.
Anyone know if there is another way or if im missing something?
This will likely correct my problems with starting my car.
Thanks a lot guys.
Tom

s1ngletracker · 09-15-2006

what kind of problems is having the clutch in causing? If that is causing problems, then you're probably already crankwalking.

There is a little plug near the clutch pedal linkage... you've gotta crawl under your dash and look up to see it, should be pretty obvious. If not I think there was a thread with a picture in it on dsmtuners somewhere, search and i bet you'd find it quick.

**asshanson** · 09-15-2006

All I did was unplug it, no re-wiring needed.

tpunx99GSX · 09-15-2006

Im not having any problems with the clutch peddle, just the switch. It unlikely that my car would be crankwalking, its a 6bolt. (yeah i know they do that too but not as much)
Do you know what i would search for on tuners? Im just trying to disable that switch.

tpunx99GSX · 09-15-2006

ok i found it, thanks ill try that tonight.

tpunx99GSX · 09-15-2006

Ok just went out to my car and did that but it didnt fix the problem so now im completly clueless.

Heres what ive tried thusfar...
Replaced a relay right near the ignition (the car is an alpine alarm)
Jumped the car
Replaced an ignition fuse that blew (under the hood)
Replaced any fuse that i saw was blown.
made sure that the wires were not grounding out
unhooked the brain box of the alarm.
Made sure that the starter motors neg and positive were hooked up. (i havent checked the voltage yet on it though)

None of these things worked, still when i turn on the ignition the radio and everything works, then when i try and start it, the radio shuts off and the starter doesnt even turn on or anything. just nothing happens.
Any ideas?

Thor06 · 09-15-2006

What exactly is the problem?

tpunx99GSX · 09-15-2006

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

None of these things worked, still when i turn on the ignition the radio and everything works, then when i try and start it, the radio shuts off and the starter doesnt even turn on or anything. just nothing happens.
Any ideas?

The car wont start.

**JET** · 09-15-2006

Checking voltage is the first one. How many fuses did you find blown?

tpunx99GSX · 09-15-2006

I found just the ignition one under the hood and one that was next to the battery not sure what it went to but was likely the alarm. and i think there was one under the dash also going to the alarm.
Do you guys think that this may be the alternator? i would think that jumping it would have made it at least try to turn over, but im getting nothing no matter what i do.

**1ViciousGSX** · 09-15-2006

Oddly enough on my 2g, I had to jump the terminals to get it to work, just unplugging the switch wouldn't do.

tim · 09-15-2006

Did the place that installed your alarm offer any warranty on their installation? I would think that even with the alarm brain unpluged it still might not start for security reasons.

Thor06 · 09-15-2006

Sounds to me like your battery is dead. Did you jump it? Thats exactly what happened when my battery took a shit sophomore year.

tpunx99GSX · 09-16-2006

Vicious- Mine is the same way, It wouldnt work without the plug in, before all of this i was able to start it without the clutch but now i cant, the clutch needs to be in. oh well...
Tim- The car came with the alarm so i dont know
Thor- Seriously dude, you need to go back to third grade and learn how to read.

And finally....

After 6 hours of tracing wires checking continuity and voltage, taking my starter out and bringing it to kragen to have it tested, cleaning up wires and drinking lots of coffee... my dsm is running again!
It turned out to be the relay that i had just replaced. For some reason it wasnt passing the proper amount of voltage through, so i disconnected it and just soldered the wires that went to each other and the starter clicked, which was music to my ears, but the car didnt start, so we jumped it again and still nothing, but then.... i pushed in the clutch and she started right up.
There were several things wrong with the wiring in this car.
there were a bunch of wires that were spliced into the ecu wires which were going to nothing at all just cut on the ends so i removed them. Then i found that i had accidentally pinched the remote wire for the starter between the tranny and the motor mount, so i repaired that. i accidentally put a fuse in the wrong hole when this initally happened, so i put one in. (found that when i was checking the continuity) then finally it was the relay not passing the proper amount of voltage which made it all work.
Whats crazy is a week before this mess happened i was talking to someone that was having electrical issues and telling them how i wish i had electrical issues instead of the ones i was having with the motor and tranny and coolent, but i am gonna have to retract my previous statement, FUCK electrical problems, they suck.

b00stcreep21 · 09-16-2006

good to see that you got it done.....most people would never find something like that. electrical problems FTL

91autoeclipse · 09-17-2006

good job. I'll keep that in ,ind.. my car is kind old.. it might just do that..