11-28-2011
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#81
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
^lol.
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11-30-2011
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#82
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
Drives: EVO
Posts: 333
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
We know of a couple of Subies in the twin cities that run 10's
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11-30-2011
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#83
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
Drives: EVO
Posts: 333
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
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11-30-2011
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#84
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
^There's a thread on EvoMN about that
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11-30-2011
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#85
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2stepadepaaadepaaadep
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: bloomington, Mn
Drives: myself crazy
Posts: 822
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
Aaron needs to stop being such a hatter on subies sure they aren't as "out of the box" fast but they are fun cars.. he's the only one I have ever heard that hates a subi rumble and that's eaily fixable with equal length headers..
Anyways back on topic! This would be sweet I would do the auto x forsure
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Originally Posted by 311evo
I put more into my car then what its worth, did it for my own enjoyment and that was all.
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^^thats what modding is about.. your own enjoyment
Last edited by 19TsiAwd90; 11-30-2011 at 03:19 PM..
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11-30-2011
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#86
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flips McGee
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
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Originally Posted by mnsubaru guy
Taking place at Proving Grounds May 23-24
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Umm wat....May? Proving Grounds? I'm cornfused now.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-30-2011
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#87
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
ya wtf, he has the same thing on the EvoMN thread
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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11-30-2011
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#88
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2stepadepaaadepaaadep
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: bloomington, Mn
Drives: myself crazy
Posts: 822
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
Must be a miscomunication?
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Originally Posted by 311evo
I put more into my car then what its worth, did it for my own enjoyment and that was all.
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^^thats what modding is about.. your own enjoyment
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11-30-2011
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#89
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: North Branch
Drives: 2004 Corvette M6 F45
Posts: 972
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
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Originally Posted by munchgsx
I think tubular manifolds are allowed as long as the stock heat shield is covering it up. Which would mean a long runner set up would be the only thing that would make it non stock appearing. Although I could be wrong about that.
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^This is true. If it has a heat shield it will be allowed. I would think that if you come through tech with a heat shield taped to your massive long runner it would not pass as stock appearing. 
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11-30-2011
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#90
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: North Branch
Drives: 2004 Corvette M6 F45
Posts: 972
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
We will work on getting some official rules posted.
This is from last year. It's not real precis.
Stock Appearing Class:
The class is open to 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder cars only. This class is open to FWD, RWD and AWD cars. This class is for the daily driven factory turbocharged & supercharged sport compact cars with original block and cylinder head. This class will be run heads up.
Must have stock frame turbo
Stock Manifolds (Intake and Exhaust)
DOT Radials Only
Must have full interior
I am going to try and refine these rules to help with any questions. I would think that if we open the hood and it appears essentially stock it will be able to run.
We did not allow SMIM's last year.
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11-30-2011
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#91
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moonshine power
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
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Originally Posted by munchgsx
We will work on getting some official rules posted.
This is from last year. It's not real precis.
Stock Appearing Class:
The class is open to 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder cars only. This class is open to FWD, RWD and AWD cars. This class is for the daily driven factory turbocharged & supercharged sport compact cars with original block and cylinder head. This class will be run heads up.
Must have stock frame turbo
Stock Manifolds (Intake and Exhaust)
DOT Radials Only
Must have full interior
I am going to try and refine these rules to help with any questions. I would think that if we open the hood and it appears essentially stock it will be able to run.
We did not allow SMIM's last year.
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Jordan didn't allow my tubular ex manifold last year, I even made it so the stock manifold heat shield could cover but he said don't bother. It's not a long tube header or a MAP manifold either. I wasn't expecting to pass tech for stock appearing but I know some other cars did with tubular ex manifolds.
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11-30-2011
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#92
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
What was the fastest "stock class" car last year?
Depending upon what the winter brings, I may have a little 6 cylinder that could give a few a run for their money.
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11-30-2011
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#93
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
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Originally Posted by munchgsx
We will work on getting some official rules posted.
This is from last year. It's not real precis.
Stock Appearing Class:
The class is open to 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder cars only. This class is open to FWD, RWD and AWD cars. This class is for the daily driven factory turbocharged & supercharged sport compact cars with original block and cylinder head. This class will be run heads up.
Must have stock frame turbo
Stock Manifolds (Intake and Exhaust)
DOT Radials Only
Must have full interior
I am going to try and refine these rules to help with any questions. I would think that if we open the hood and it appears essentially stock it will be able to run.
We did not allow SMIM's last year.
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Do you allow reconfigured intercooler setups, such as a FMIC on a side mount vehicle?
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11-30-2011
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#94
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Reynolds number user
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: grove/tempe
Posts: 3,553
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
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Originally Posted by TalonFiero
Jordan didn't allow my tubular ex manifold last year, I even made it so the stock manifold heat shield could cover but he said don't bother. It's not a long tube header or a MAP manifold either. I wasn't expecting to pass tech for stock appearing but I know some other cars did with tubular ex manifolds.
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Thats BS. You're even running a stock frame turbo right?
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12-01-2011
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#95
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
Posts: 1,375
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
I really hope that tech is left to the professionals of BIR and their discretion in 2012. 20 minutes per car was a bit absurd.
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Originally Posted by niterydr
What was the fastest "stock class" car last year?
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I think Bryce ran an 11.4 in his Evo IX.
I suspect there will be slew of cars in the 11.0 range this time.
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12-01-2011
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#96
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2stepadepaaadepaaadep
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: bloomington, Mn
Drives: myself crazy
Posts: 822
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
^^ what do they look for when going through tech?
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Originally Posted by 311evo
I put more into my car then what its worth, did it for my own enjoyment and that was all.
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^^thats what modding is about.. your own enjoyment
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12-01-2011
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#97
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
Posts: 2,120
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
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I really hope that tech is left to the professionals of BIR and their discretion in 2012. 20 minutes per car was a bit absurd.
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It's humorous that you think we were the problem. Jed's a great guy but it was BIR that dropped the ball last year as they were supposed to have more staff for tech, Jordan helped as a courtesy to them to speed up the process. Also, do you think BIR's normal tech staff could appropriately class our cars? People are complaining about tubular manifolds and stock appearing turbos having made it through last year even with Jordan in the tech lane.
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12-01-2011
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#98
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
My car will (well should) be ready this time finally! YAY!
Looking forward to this, just need a helmet and I am good to go.
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12-01-2011
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#99
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
Maybe you could have cars pass through BIR tech get their sticker or whatever saying they passed tech. Then have the car drive down a bit to MAP guys or other car guys which ask the owner of the car what class the person wants to race in. That person can then quickly go over the car and determine if they fit into that class (stock manifolds) or if they have to go up a class.
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12-01-2011
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#100
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Linwood, MN
Drives: You crazy!
Posts: 2,354
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Re: Proving Grounds 2012
^^^ this.
Also if a DSM has a front mount, automatically make it not stock appearing?
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