The Real McCain - Page 4

bertrenolds5 · 07-03-2008

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Originally Posted by slowboy

Tom you need to read up on modern nuclear power, it's waaaay safer than it used to be, there have been huge advances. And dirty? Not compared to all the coal and oil we burn, and not into the atmosphere.

Nuclear power has come along way, the only problem is that new plants cost so much money no one wants to build them. And the fact of the matter is to build one they tax the people, then the people are charged for using their own power plant.

I say we build power plants everywhere for free with money bush grew on a tree somewhere, I mean why can't we just print a bunch of money we don't have right?

Matt D. · 07-03-2008

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Originally Posted by bertrenolds5

And the fact of the matter is to build one they tax the people, then the people are charged for using their own power plant.

No, that's called your monthly electricity bill.

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Originally Posted by bertrenolds5

I say we build power plants everywhere for free with money bush grew on a tree somewhere, I mean why can't we just print a bunch of money we don't have right?

Learn how the federal reserve works, please.

bertrenolds5 · 07-03-2008

[QUOTE=Kracka;247448] Decisions are only as good as the information we have to make them and sometimes they end up being wrong.QUOTE]

I love america too, but for what it was, what is was founded on, not the corporate pig is has become. It seems like more often then not the decisions or govt. is making are wrong or are made for all of the wrong reasons. I mean honestly, why would the bush administration create a war in IRAQ?$$$$, is their anything wrong with this picture. Why are these people running our country? If the Iraq war was created then who knows what the real story behind 911 is.

bertrenolds5 · 07-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

No, that's called your monthly electricity bill.

Learn how the federal reserve works, please.

I'm just saying it's kind of hard to pay for things in our country when bush wants to make his stupid tax cuts for the rich permenent. I'm not exactly sure how you pay for a war and cut taxes at the same time, oh thats right, you increase your deficit by spending money we don't have. If thats not printing money we don't have I don't know what is.

**Kracka** · 07-03-2008

Why should the upperclass be taxed at so much higher percentage than the other classes? They've worked for and earned their money just like everyone else.

bertrenolds5 · 07-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Why should the upperclass be taxed at so much higher percentage than the other classes? They've worked for and earned their money just like everyone else.

How is it fair that a person who makes less then 600k a year has to pay a set percentage of their taxes where as if you make 10 million a year you only have to pay taxes up to 600k? You tell me how that is fair?

I believe 600k was the cut off, I am pretty sure that is the most a person has to pay in taxes. [edit]apparently this statement was false.

**Kracka** · 07-03-2008

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Originally Posted by bertrenolds5

How is it fair that a person who makes less then 600k a year has to pay a set percentage of their taxes where as if you make 10 million a year you only have to pay taxes up to 600k? You tell me how that is fair?

And it's not a higher percent, I believe we all pay the same percentage of our income. it's that the stupid ass republicans set the highest taxable amount to 600k I believe.

Check the federal income tax brackets.

*edit*
Quick simplified tax bracket table:
http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm

**asshanson** · 07-03-2008

There is a certain point where your taxes don't go to a higher percentage, you still have to pay tax though on money made higher than that. Social security is another story, but regular income tax applies to everything you make.

bertrenolds5 · 07-03-2008

I suck when it comes to taxes, thanks slowboy. The rich should have to pay more taxes because their rich, they have more money so to be fair they should be taxed more. Why did I bring up taxes? The real problem is that corporations are moving overseas for cheaper labor and taking govt. income from taxes with them. Their is so much corporate money overseas because they don't want to bring it here and pay taxes on it.

**Kracka** · 07-03-2008

The rich do pay more taxes b/c they do make more money. "Fair" would be for everyone to pay the same percentage of their income towards tax, our economy has gone beyond that to give the lower and middle classes a break by taxing them at a lesser percentage than the upper class.

We need certain jobs and labor to go overseas, our market demands it.

**Halon** · 07-03-2008

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Originally Posted by bertrenolds5

The rich should have to pay more taxes because their rich, they have more money so to be fair they should be taxed more.

How is it fair to tax the rich at a higher percentage? Who's that fair to?

Besides, the rich typically do pay more taxes anyway. Even if they were taxed at the same percentage, they'd still be paying more because of the simple fact that 20% of 10miilion is going to be significantly more then 20% of 30k.

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Originally Posted by bertrenolds5

the only problem is that new plants cost so much money no one wants to build them.

No one? There have already been 6 of our brand new AP1000 plants ordered within the US within the past few months, with who knows how many to come in the future.

**Halon** · 07-03-2008

I'll also mention that the AP1000 is a modular design, which will significantly cut down on the site construction time, which also cuts down on the cost. And add in the fact that they designed it to use 80% less piping, 85% less wiring, 50% less valves, 35% less pumps, as well as cutting down the volume of them, yet still producing over 1000MW/hr. The cost of these has gotten a lot better.

bertrenolds5 · 07-05-2008

I guess or tax system seems fine, the tax cuts were for the middle class, I believe they raised the backet for people to pay a smaller percentage, none the less that is still less money comming in to our govt.

The more unskilled labor jobs that go over seas, the more pissed off under educated americans are out of jobs causing them to resort to crime. Crime is bad right, why are we promoting it?

And I'm down with new nuclear power plants, my only concern is that they will be putting all of the waste in yucca mountain which is located on a huge fault line. A big earth quake equals a huge natural disaster, Imagine nuclear waste in the ground water.

niterydr · 07-05-2008

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Originally Posted by bertrenolds5

I guess or tax system seems fine, the tax cuts were for the middle class, I believe they raised the backet for people to pay a smaller percentage, none the less that is still less money comming in to our govt.

The more unskilled labor jobs that go over seas, the more pissed off under educated americans are out of jobs causing them to resort to crime. Crime is bad right, why are we promoting it?

And I'm down with new nuclear power plants, my only concern is that they will be putting all of the waste in yucca mountain which is located on a huge fault line. A big earth quake equals a huge natural disaster, Imagine nuclear waste in the ground water.

Well maybe the uneducated should go to school? Hell that is covered by the government as well if you know how to apply and where to go.

Lazyness and lack of education should not be tolerated.

bertrenolds5 · 07-05-2008

what happens when they start sending everyones cubicle job overseas and then it effects you?