Terrorist... - Page 3

AJ · 07-07-2005

**admin edit** this thread has been edited for some use of terms that as a community we just don't need to deal with. There is more shit to deal with and no need to sling these terms around.

THis thread hasn't got off course and is going to remain open for debate. But with anything that gets into aspects the the church and religious beliefs things can get heated. Have respect, keep shots off the site or this thread and possibly some accounts may go bye bye.

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

There is trash in every race. I'm a white American. I won't be the first to say and certainly not the last, that there is a whole lot of trashy white people. To analyze some of this, when our own people commit nasty shit such as Timothy McVae "Oklahoma bombing in the mid 90's" we consider it acts of violence. To throw a number out, 75% of the people in America are caucasian white natural American. That number is probably more but certainly not less. When foreigners commit acts it's considered terrorism such as Al Queda, it's only natural as Americans to stereotype other groups of people considered foreigners. Yes, certainly there are wonderful people of all race but it's the nature of the beast. So our immediate actions are to shun those other groups. We know in our hearts that there is good and bad. It just takes a few bad seeds to ruin it for everyone else. I know very little about the Muslim community. For the members that are Muslim on here, what's your take on this? Why do you think that they say that Allah has commanded them do commit these terrorism acts? I guess you could relate it to religious cults such as David Corresh in Waco, TX back in the early 90's whom lit everyone on fire including himself. When shit happens here in the US, you never really hear someone say that Jesus Christ commanded them to do so. Maybe Marilyn Manson, but not Jesus.

Religion is an extremely touchy subject. I'd say that most everyone in this group is religious in some way and believe in God. There are many religions and practices. Some groups like to practice outside the Bible and have their own ways. I have several relatives that are Morman and they do some really weird things, at least things i consider out of the ordinary and senseless as a religious belief. I have a wonderful friend that's Jehovah and goes to the same church as Prince in the cities. Except to the Jehovahs, it's not a church, it's the Kingdom Hall. I won't even go there on their practices. In the beginning and in the end, there is and there shall be only ONE God.

CDeutsch · 07-07-2005

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When shit happens here in the US, you never really hear someone say that Jesus Christ commanded them to do so. Maybe Marilyn Manson, but not Jesus.

Probably because Christianity already went threw that stage. It's called the Crusades.

Onefast99gsx · 07-08-2005

No they obviously won't end immigration. That's why these bombings and mass killings will continue to occur. Who know's where the next one will be. Maybe, LA, Chicago or even Minneapolis. The fact is, that it will happen. Will we know when? Hell no. Again, we will be reactive to the situation.

**JET** · 07-08-2005

There is always a price to pay for freedom. Do we lock down all the borders and turn the US into a militarized state because we have had a couple of incidents? No. Look at the percentage of people that were truly affected by the 9/11 incident. It is a small percentage of the country. No I am not downplaying the bombing. It is all about the greater good to the group as a whole. The whole group will be happier by not going all crazy about something like this.

TheBlizzard · 07-08-2005

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Do we lock down all the borders and turn the US into a militarized state because we have had a couple of incidents?

Its in the future. Maybe not in our lifetime but it will happen eventually.

StealthGST · 07-08-2005

The terrorists are a bunch of cowards who are trying to get the upper hand by using pussy tactics... that, sadly... work.

Guerilla warfare works... look at Vietnam.

Onefast99gsx · 07-08-2005

Yeah Guerilla warfare works but we can't do that anymore. Our soldiers would go to jail for war crimes. It's B.S. It's like the war in Iraq really isn't a war. We're just playing defense over there. Now dropping a 1 megaton bomb on Hiroshima in 1945, THAT was war.

Craig- I totally agree. I also think in the future, perhaps far into it. We will have some sort of mandatory tracking system, personal barcodes tatooed-like or some embedded device for tracking. How something like this would get rolled out into society i don't know. Something like this was actually predicted to happen. Maybe not in our lifetime but somebodies. The technology is there, NOW. Heck, my cat has a little chip in her if she ever gets lost. It's not satellite tracking but i'm sure that's possible with something else out there.

xluciusx · 07-08-2005

Yeah something like that would be a huge blow to "personal freedom" but I mean at least in the case of crimes it would pretty much take care of everything. I mean how are you ever going to commit a crime if its possible to always know where a person is.

LightningGSX · 07-08-2005

Speaking of this, Einstein is a prime example.He could have pushed science so much further before his death, but his religion conflicted with new theories of quantum mechanics and clearly led him down the wrong path.If there are any physics fans in here, you may know of the his "cosmological constant", which is now known as "Einsteins Greatest Blunder", IMO his greatest blunder was his belief in god.

Onefast99gsx · 07-08-2005

And what were his beliefs in God?

LightningGSX · 07-08-2005

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And what were his beliefs in God?

Same as most other religious people

xluciusx · 07-08-2005

Yeah that stupid god doesn't play dice stuff...its amazing that someone as advanced as him would even stop to consider religion.

Onefast99gsx · 07-08-2005

Well i for one believe in God. I don't hate yous for not believing in God. I can't imagine a world without God and religion though. I think without religion we'd have no sense of purpose. Without religion, who would be our leaders and guidance? Please don't even say our presidents and other leaders. How would we distinguish from right and wrong, good vs. evil. I guess until you've lost someone as close to you as i did, you begin to have a whole new perspective on life. I'd like to go knowing or thinking that there is something better on the other side. It's just hard to believe that there isn't a God. Who created us? Better yet who created Earth, or the other planets, the sun, the stars and everything else out in space or space itself. It had to of come from somewhere. I guess if you're only scientific about it and say that we started as gasses or something, well what/who created the gases? You could go on and on. Was there ever such thing as 'the absense of anything' ? Couldn't have been, we had to start from somewhere. But how, where did that somewhere come from? I think there is a book on this. It's interesting.

LightningGSX · 07-08-2005

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Well i for one believe in God. I don't hate yous for not believing in God. I can't imagine a world without God and religion though. I think without religion we'd have no sense of purpose. Without religion, who would be our leaders and guidance? Please don't even say our presidents and other leaders. How would we distinguish from right and wrong, good vs. evil.

So you're saying those of us who don't believe in god have no sense of purpose and can't distinguish right from wrong?

Onefast99gsx · 07-08-2005

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So you're saying those of us who don't believe in god have no sense of purpose and can't distinguish right from wrong?

Huh? There has been no fighting in here that i'm aware of........

No, not really. But it's rather tough and compliated to explain. I truthfully don't even know what my sense of purpose is, YET. Going to work everyday, eating, sleeping, working on dsm's, etc.. I don't know, but is that a purpose for me? Who knows. I'd like to think that there is more for me than that. You or anyone can have their own opinions, that is just mine. I'm no minister/preacher or anything. I'm just an average person just like the rest of us here. Truthfully, i haven't been to church in years.

This is interesting to talk about. It gets more interesting sometimes than someone making 500whp on their dsm. Those things are just episodes that are basically meaningless except to the person stating the fact.

**JET** · 07-08-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

Well i for one believe in God. I don't hate yous for not believing in God. I can't imagine a world without God and religion though. I think without religion we'd have no sense of purpose. Without religion, who would be our leaders and guidance? Please don't even say our presidents and other leaders. How would we distinguish from right and wrong, good vs. evil. I guess until you've lost someone as close to you as i did, you begin to have a whole new perspective on life. I'd like to go knowing or thinking that there is something better on the other side. It's just hard to believe that there isn't a God. Who created us? Better yet who created Earth, or the other planets, the sun, the stars and everything else out in space or space itself. It had to of come from somewhere. I guess if you're only scientific about it and say that we started as gasses or something, well what/who created the gases? You could go on and on. Was there ever such thing as 'the absense of anything' ? Couldn't have been, we had to start from somewhere. But how, where did that somewhere come from? I think there is a book on this. It's interesting.

Along those same lines, who created God? If he has always just been there, why couldn't earth have always just been there? I have gone really deep into this myself and have my own opinion on things. I won't try to push my views on anyone else, but I may throw in a few questions that make you go, hmmm....

niterydr · 07-08-2005

aww shit here we go...

mdost03 · 07-08-2005

this fighting is getting no where. we sound like a bunch of damn politicians trying to get some point across.

LightningGSX · 07-08-2005

Where's the fighting? This thread is rather civil.