Proving Grounds 2012

[turbotalon1g]

Just because I'm into drag racing doesn't mean I don't like turning.

I know what its like to do auto-x, i've done a few events and its really fun and why I have been doing more events each year.

I don't know how good teh auto will be for the auto-x/road racing stuff, but I'd like a lap on the road race course.

[C3L1CA]

Has there been any thought to the drag racing classes or any of the other classes?

Or is that info anywhere? Want to be sure some mods I have planned wont get me kicked out of a certain class.

[turbotalon1g]

I think its stock appearing, some kind of "real street" basically 62mm max comp. wheel and then quick 16. That is all from memory, but i'm pretty sure that's what it was last year.

Although i'd like to see the rules on stock appearing in regards to tubular manifolds and such.

[scheides]

Stock appearing they let a lot of stuff fly including fp green/red/black with 3" inlets and aftermarket comp covers, tubular manifolds are out but if it looks stock with a stock heat shield that flies as well. The guy I beat with the 335i last year was trying to raise flags regarding aftermarket rods and such and I told him over and over the class is stock *appearing* ....have fun with it and keep everything in the spirit of the event!

[C3L1CA]

Yea I'm curious about the stock appearing class. It seemed pretty loose last year from what I heard/read but don't know if they are going to tighten up the rules this year or have it the same as last year..

[turbotalon1g]

beamer guy sounds like a douche. ^Agreed.

IS anyone out there MAP?

[v8klla]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

beamer guy sounds like a douche. ^Agreed.

IS anyone out there MAP?

You know where to find me We can certainly take another look at classing and we're definitely open to ideas!

[goodhart]

That bimmer dude was posting on mnsc about how he was going to kick ass at proving grounds before the event last year. I think he was running like 12.2-ish at the event.

[Tachyon]

Originally Posted by goodhart

That bimmer dude was posting on mnsc about how he was going to kick ass at proving grounds before the event last year. I think he was running like 12.2-ish at the event.

That's halarious, I knocked his ass out of the competition with a basically shot motor (~110 compression, blowing oil) and only 20psi on a TDo5 turbo, on a 20 minute street tune.

He did seem like a nice enough guy in person, so who knows...

I suspect it's going to be a very competitive field in stock appearing in 2012.

[turbotalon1g]

Not bad for a bimmer though, he probably won't be so vocal about kicking ass this year though.

[turbotalon1g]

Drag Racing Information / Classes
The event is open to any sport compact vehicle. No tube chassis cars allowed in competition, exhibition passes or Quick 16 class only. All drivers are required to wear a helmet certified Snell 2000 or newer. Drag racing classes are subject to change, opinions welcomed!

Outlaw Street Class:
The Outlaw Street class is designed for street legal sport compact cars with up to two power adders. The class is open to 2-rotor, 4-cylinder, and 6-cylinder cars. This class is open to FWD, RWD, and AWD cars. This class will be run heads up.


26" Slicks FWD/RWD
Any size drag radial FWD/RWD
DOT Drag Radials for AWD only


True Street Class:
The True Street class is designed for street legal sport compact cars with one power adder. The class is open to 2-rotor, 4-cylinder, and 6-cylinder cars. This class is open to FWD, RWD, and AWD cars. This class is for the daily driver sport compact streetcar with more limited turbo sizes and smaller tires. This class will be run heads up.


62mm turbo limit
24.5" Slicks or 26" Drag radials for FWD
26" Drag radials for RWD
Street radial tires for AWD only
No wheelie bars

Then NA 4-cyl class, who cares. WELL 2 of them for some reason :thumbsdown:

Finally:
Stock Appearing Class:
The class is open to 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder cars only. This class is open to FWD, RWD and AWD cars. This class is for the daily driven factory turbocharged & supercharged sport compact cars with original block and cylinder head. This class will be run heads up.



Must have stock frame turbo
Stock Manifolds (Intake and Exhaust)
DOT Radials Only
Must have full interior


For Example:


Subaru WRX/STI
Mitsubishi Evo / DSM
SRT4
Cobalt SS
Etc

[turbotalon1g]

I don't think I saw any modified intake manifolds or SMIM's but I wasn't looking too hard.

I did see a lot of cast exhaust manifolds that weren't stock, but I think cast manifolds should be allowed to be honest.

I can see getting my ass handed to me quite easily in this class, I think there needs to be a middle ground between the 350-450whp cars and the 62mm (700+whp class)

[carltalon]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

I can see getting my ass handed to me quite easily in this class, I think there needs to be a middle ground between the 350-450whp cars and the 62mm (700+whp class)

I agree. there is a big difference between a stock apearing dsm turbo to a stock apearing evo turbo. the biggest "true" stock apearing turbo a dsm could run would be a small turbo on a evo.

[scheides]

Originally Posted by goodhart

That bimmer dude was posting on mnsc about how he was going to kick ass at proving grounds before the event last year. I think he was running like 12.2-ish at the event.

Originally Posted by turbotal[QUOTE=goodhart

That bimmer dude was posting on mnsc about how he was going to kick ass at proving grounds before the event last year. I think he was running like 12.2-ish at the event.

Really? Post links if you can, that's funny

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Not bad for a bimmer though, he probably won't be so vocal about kicking ass this year though.

FWIW he did have a decent setup, stock turbos w/ intakes, full exhaust, alky injection...it was a one-wheel wonder but it still was running consistent low 12's aaaaaalll weekend.

Originally Posted by Tachyon

That's halarious, I knocked his ass out of the competition with a basically shot motor (~110 compression, blowing oil) and only 20psi on a TDo5 turbo, on a 20 minute street tune.

He did seem like a nice enough guy in person, so who knows...

I suspect it's going to be a very competitive field in stock appearing in 2012.

He was very very nice until I ran into him at Taco Bell after the weekend was over, he was really upset we had beat him, that's all I will say...

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

I don't think I saw any modified intake manifolds or SMIM's but I wasn't looking too hard.

I did see a lot of cast exhaust manifolds that weren't stock, but I think cast manifolds should be allowed to be honest.

I can see getting my ass handed to me quite easily in this class, I think there needs to be a middle ground between the 350-450whp cars and the 62mm (700+whp class)

IMHO anything you can look at it at a glance and it could be shrugged off as stock should fly.

Given the numbers you have been running in your car you will do great in this class man, you have zero to worry about!

[munchgsx]

Oh he has plenty to worry about

[C3L1CA]

Is that for this year? Where'd you find that info?

I was hoping they didn't have such a restriction on tires By dot radials they mean legit radials and not cheater slicks like the qtp, correct?

[turbotalon1g]

^



Brad, that was taken from last year.

Thanks scheides, i remember that car now. I like that thing.

I agree with your take on the stock appearing deal, but here's a thing almost every DSM has a SMIM on it these days and if anything it makes the car look cleaner, but I'm sure if someone was to try and run it people would complain.

Personally I think SMIM should be allowed and cast exhaust manifolds, then someone could still run mitsu, T3, and T4 turbos.

MAP should come in here and help out. I know for the shootout everyone was complaining about the tin can's that were in their DST class, but that's because ER was driving probably the closest thing to Joe Bucci's car anyone has seen in a long time.

[scheides]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Personally I think SMIM should be allowed and cast exhaust manifolds, then someone could still run mitsu, T3, and T4 turbos.

Why a SMIM? Most of them are polished and fancy looking; a non-car person could look under the hood and even identify that as 'not stock appearing'...know what I mean?

[19TsiAwd90]

Originally Posted by scheides

Why a SMIM? Most of them are polished and fancy looking; a non-car person could look under the hood and even identify that as 'not stock appearing'...know what I mean?

i agree scheides, stock appearing means stock appearing that simple(exhaust would be ok). Anything that doesn't look stock wont let you race in that class, i also think they should have more classes possibly like a "super stock" or something like that where you could have a turbo up to 50trim and full exhaust/intake and fmic. along with what ever other goodies your avg dsm/evo/subi would have thats just my thoughts

[turbotalon1g]

It seems like a lot more have SMIM and because they sit so much lower I basically don't realize its there.

I'm ready for some official words on these rules, and I can't wait to get a SMIM till after proving grounds i guess.