Proof that Ken Block can't race - Page 3

rose0529 · 12-09-2010

omg.. i just dont know what to say about this..

http://www.traxxas.com/products/mode...c/7309kenblock

mdost03 · 12-09-2010

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Originally Posted by rose0529

omg.. i just dont know what to say about this..

http://www.traxxas.com/products/mode...c/7309kenblock

That's pretty sweet.

**Tachyon** · 12-09-2010

I wish they would import the 3-door Fiesta here.

A//// Guy · 12-09-2010

MattD stop being so jealous.

tpunx99GSX · 12-09-2010

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MattD stop being so jealous.

Im pretty sure that matt could find a fault with both of those girls. hahahah

s1ngletracker · 12-09-2010

I mean... good for block exposing more of the mainstream media to rally and whatnot. However, I am also unimpressed by him. I really do hope he can shape up and start actually competing, it'd be great for US motorsports.

**Halon** · 12-09-2010

I'm not trying to pick sides or anything here as this guy really has no impact on my life or anything so I could care less about the guy really. But I guess I don't understand the "I could do it if I had as much seat time as him" arguement. Maybe help me understand that arguement more?
Because they way I see life in general, a majority of people get to be professionals at what they due (whether its sports players, or the accountant in the cube next to you) with practice. Sure thre is the occasional prodigy that comes along. But most people are good at what they do from practice. So I guess I don't see where that makes them wrong.

But everyone is entitled to their own opinion, different strokes for different folks

That's all, good day

s1ngletracker · 12-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Halon

Sure thre is the occasional prodigy that comes along. But most people are good at what they do from practice. So I guess I don't see where that makes them wrong.

I don't agree with this. Most of the people who are at the top of a sport are there because they are genetic, naturally gifted freaks. The people who can just pick up the sport and, from the start, are beating people with a lot more experience. If we could all be at the top with just practice, well, then we wouldn't be at the top, by definition.

We could all likely be close to Block with practice, but we would still be nowhere near Sebastian Loeb. Sure, he practices a lot, but he's also a genetic freak.

**Tachyon** · 12-09-2010

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Originally Posted by s1ngletracker

I don't agree with this. Most of the people who are at the top of a sport are there because they are genetic, naturally gifted freaks. The people who can just pick up the sport and, from the start, are beating people with a lot more experience. If we could all be at the top with just practice, well, then we wouldn't be at the top, by definition.

We could all likely be close to Block with practice, but we would still be nowhere near Sebastian Loeb. Sure, he practices a lot, but he's also a genetic freak.

True to a point, but more so of sports that are based around physical ability. Racing is more of a practiced skill than physical feat.

It would be worth noting, some of the reason Loeb has so much success over some of the Finn's is his driving style is fairly atypical of traditional rally canon. Lobe's background is Tarmac. He understands clean racing lines and at an instinctual level. He keeps things neat and tighty, with a minimal of the showyness that people associate with rally. Mix that with 15 years of racing before WRC and it's easy to see how his approach works. I have witnessed faster drivers time and again than Loeb, especially on loose surfaces. But the rate of DNFs from those drivers is their undoing.

Of course unless you grew up racing from a very early age, I suspect it may be very difficult if not impossible to reach the skill level and consistency of a top world-class driver in any format of racing.

BTW, does anybody know if they were using a control tyre in that video? If they were, amazing difference in tyre preservation between drivers.

s1ngletracker · 12-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Tachyon

True to a point, but more so of sports that are based around physical ability. Racing is more of a practiced skill than physical feat.

I dont know if that is true. There are going to be people who are better than I at physics, no matter what I do. Same goes for video games, throwing a frisbee, and most things, physical or mental, and anything in between. The idea is more than genetic predisposition makes certain things easier, makes you naturally better at certain skills or ways of thinking.

But in a sense I agree, it makes less of a difference than say, sprinting, where physical composition is hugely important.

**goodhart** · 12-09-2010

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<those girls

Kevin 1G Drummer · 12-09-2010

The only reason Block is where he is, is because of his money. It's cool that he likes motorsports and everything, but if he can't act like a professional then IMO he doesn't deserve the attention he gets. I'm with Matt on the argument that if you put anyone who understands the way a car like that drives, they could do what he does as well if not better than him, given the amount of seat time he has had.

Another point I have against him is that I wonder how many takes they have to do to get most of his big slides done right. When you watch his videos, any time there's a big slide, there's always skid marks from the previous attempts at it. I'd like to see an outtakes video from the making of one of his "big productions".

I guess I just don't see why he is such a big deal.

tpunx99GSX · 12-09-2010

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I'm with Matt on the argument that if you put anyone who understands the way a car like that drives, they could do what he does as well if not better than him, given the amount of seat time he has had.

Same can be said about almost everything/anyone. Im sure i could be a better driver than shumacher if i had the seat time/training that he did. im sorry but that arguement is getting old, fast.
Natural talent can get you so far, but if you dont have the money/sponsors/marketability you wont last.

A//// Guy · 12-09-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Im pretty sure that matt could find a fault with both of those girls. hahahah

LOL so true.

Yea I really dont get this thread either.

Who cares who he is or what he does. If you dont like him, dont pay attention to him. I dont like tons of celebrities. You dont see me making posts about Bill Maher or Beyonce everyday.

If you guys are so good at driving, try and beat him at his own game and be a millionaire?

t-revzr · 12-09-2010

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy

LOL so true.

Yea I really dont get this thread either.

Who cares who he is or what he does. If you dont like him, dont pay attention to him. I dont like tons of celebrities. You dont see me making posts about Bill Maher or Beyonce everyday.

If you guys are so good at driving, try and beat him at his own game and be a millionaire?

+1 I agree with you Peter!

Oh and I call dibs on the blond e in that pic!

**goodhart** · 12-09-2010

I'm pretty sure the only reason that argument is being made is because guys like schumacher, all these other rally drivers, etc, were all recognized as drivers and made it big.

From my understanding, Ken Block got big by making shoes, then decided, "hey, I am rich mofo, I think I'll try this". He made a couple gymkana videos, and everybody started saying "ZOMFGGG1!!11!!1 I MUST HAVE SUBARU RALLY CARZZ RUBBLEEEZZZZZ!!!11!!111!!!1 DC SHOES SIDEWAYS HATZ AND LIME GREEN MONSTRER EVERYTHING!!1!!!11!!"

Thus, why he has so many haters, he didn't come up through the ranks of racing, he just hopped in with a bunch of money and decided hey WTF, I'll give this a shot, he has sucked at at, and has still gotten 9,000% of the attention guys like Sebastian Loeb get who win all the time and deserve attention.

Example: This would be like if Greg Camarillo for the Vikings made a couple videos of him making crazy ass catches in a controlled environment with weeks, possibly months of practice doing just what he is doing in the video, whoring out Monster/DC shoes gear, and him all the sudden becoming more famous than Adrian Peterson. LOL

I'm not hating, just explaining. I'm not a Block fan, nor a Block hater, his Gymkana videos are pretty sweet, I just don't see whay he is worshipped by so many because of them. The End.

**Halon** · 12-09-2010

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Originally Posted by goodhart

Example: This would be like if Greg Camarillo for the Vikings made a couple videos of him making crazy ass catches in a controlled environment with weeks, possibly months of practice doing just what he is doing in the video, whoring out Monster/DC shoes gear, and him all the sudden becoming more famous than Adrian Peterson. LOL

So in your example above, would that then mean that Camarillo SUCKS at receiving? He may not be a pro-bowler, but is he still alright or does he flat out SUCK?

A//// Guy · 12-09-2010

People who make a statement in society, fashion etc, are usually the ones who are followed. IE Lady Gaga, etc.

People that go beyond the norm are remembered and its usually by crazy ideas and designs or retarded riced out monster sponsored subis.

**goodhart** · 12-09-2010

^^ LOL, I think you're looking a bit too hard into my example. It was a bad one at that. I would compare Block more to say.....the Detroit Lions backup Punter as far as comparing success at their respective occupations.

(Ken Block being a professional race car driver in this example of course)

DoughtCom · 12-11-2010

LMFAO DC made them take the video down.