02-01-2009
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
Drives: Silver '02 IS300, Blue '06 Suzuki SV1000
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
That car just does not wanna go home with you. That sucks man! I hope you get it figured out.
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02-01-2009
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#2
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
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Originally Posted by Kevin_1G_Drummer
That car just does not wanna go home with you. That sucks man! I hope you get it figured out.
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Haha I know! Tell me about it. Its home now, so I will try to figure it out. If worst comes to worst, ill be looking for a 6 bolt longblock, to plug and play (and this time no balance shafts haha). So Im just gonna keep pressing forward, got one of my female friends coming over to help fix it. She doesnt know anything about dsm's but she will ease the sting of it not starting...haha! I got some pics of the car in all its glory (on the flatbed..lol), ill try to post them later.
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02-02-2009
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#3
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
So it cranks (slowly), gets fuel, and has spark. I gotta get the oil pan off soon. Really at a loss.
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02-02-2009
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Duluth, MN
Drives: 1995 talon tsi
Posts: 167
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
If I am not mistaken, this is your car when a local guy here was selling it.
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20993
I bowl on a league with the guy and he had this flooding problem for a while, replaced allot of parts trying to figure it out. Then when the headgasket blew, he thought maybe that was the cause. He lists some details in this thread, you may want to PM him for other info.
Hope it helps!
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02-02-2009
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
Thats def. my car, i will have to pm him. But doesnt sound like he knows the issue either.
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02-02-2009
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#6
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aka Goodbye
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
Yeah, that's the car. I fixed all the stuff wrong with it as well as some other small things not listed there. Whatever it's doing right now has nothing to do with running rich or flooding, that's a pretty simple fix. When I did the headgasket, I inspected the cylinder bores very closely, all looked very good. The head and block deck surfaces were straight and in great shape, it simply had an old stock gasket which eventually failed. There was no signs of detonation on the piston tops or even large carbon build-up from running rich. Except for a choppy idle, it ran great while I had it. This isn't something I've seen before.
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02-03-2009
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
I smelled gas when it died on the freeway, and even the tow truck driver said why it smelled so gassy. The non-start issue is the main problem now, and if its had fuel issues, and I'm smelling fuel...kinda sounds like a fuel issue. Possible f.p.r. problem?
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02-03-2009
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
Drives: Silver '02 IS300, Blue '06 Suzuki SV1000
Posts: 5,293
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
It's possible that the diaphragm in the FPR blew out and the fuel is getting back into the intake manifold through the vacuum line. I had that problem on my car a couple years ago, but I was running an Aeromotive FPR at the time. What fuel pump is in it?
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02-27-2009
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: osceola wisconsin
Drives: gutlass
Posts: 787
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
sounds like center diff to me
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03-01-2009
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#10
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
Well here are some pics of the talon in all its glory (up on the flatbed...lol). I picked up a head today (thanks to iceminion), and have to get all the fluids, gaskets, belts, from my pops (bday present). It didn't get picked up friday, but will be out early this week, and hopefully back by the end of the week.
(notice in the first pic, the talon decieded to take a nap on 35w North....haha)
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03-01-2009
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#11
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aka Goodbye
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
It's got brand new ARP's, and you can reuse the Cometic. I still don't get how the pulley wiggled off.
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03-02-2009
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#12
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
Well unless the timing wasnt done right. The marks are off at least 4 teeth from eachother, I havent even had a chance to see how far off the main pulley is, and the belt shifted over an 1/8th of an inch. It just doesnt magically do that, especially since the timing was just done. It takes something drastic to do that.
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03-03-2009
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#13
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aka Goodbye
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
The timing belt was done right, my only thought is the main pulley bolt backed out somehow, which doesn't make any sense either. Let me know what you find out.
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04-15-2009
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
The timing belt was done right, my only thought is the main pulley bolt backed out somehow, which doesn't make any sense either. Let me know what you find out.
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Well after pulling the head and all the timing components off, we found that many simple bolts, LIKE THE MAIN CRANKSHAFT SPROCKET BOLT!, were halfway or more out, leading me to believe it was never tightened. The result of it was the crankshaft main sprocket backing off the crank, and damaging it. Also the lower timing belt cover bolts were barely tightened down (hand tight or less).
Secondly, the timing belt tensioner bracket was not there, leaving the timing belt tensioner loose. So overall it seems that the timing belt job was less than satisfactory. The result of this was catostrophic valve damage, to the exhaust side, and some piston damage.
I have tons of pics of the damage, some are pretty wicked (and will post them soon). Have most of it put back together, just going to finish up a couple things this week, and hope all is well.
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04-16-2009
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
Get this thing on the road! Maybe you'll see me on the road lol.
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04-16-2009
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#16
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
This weekend I'm hoping. It's been an asston of work fixing the stuff that shouldn't be broken. It's pretty ridiculous actually. I couldve had it done today but my friend set the timing a bit off and we didn't realize till I had pretty much finished up. A couple hours on saturday and it should be done. Oh and I need a new o2 sensor if anyone has got one lying around.
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04-18-2009
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
So another quick update, and yet another set back.
Got it all buttoned up this morning, checked timing, filled with fluids and it was the time for the moment of truth. Sat in it, turned the key and she popped off. The only problem was....ROD KNOCk!!!!! So yep, after all the time spent, I come to find out the lower end is shot. Needless to say I'm quite upset over the whole ordeal. Pretty fed up with this hunk o junk that I bought. So back to square one, going to get a motor and swap it in, and hope for the best next time around.
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04-18-2009
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
Are you sure it's rod knock?
This is one of those times when you want to kill yourself; when the car finally runs, you will be so happy.
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04-18-2009
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN.
Drives: E36
Posts: 2,269
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
Almost 100% positive it's rod knock, timing was dead on, no noise from the tranny, it's a lower end knock. I'm almost at the point where I'm done with it. Just sell it to someone with the time of the day to fix it. I have time, but my patience with this car is nearing it's end. Plus for the money I paid for it, I haven't even gotten to put 25 miles on the car. And this all couldve been avoided if there wasn't shotty work done by the previous owner.
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04-18-2009
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#20
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: My project= 1992 tsi
I know exactly what you mean man, I think I got close to 20k into mine on shit that was fucked up by previous owners, I bought mine 3 years ago and I have put on 6,000 miles.
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