More Nuclear Power in MN??

[Goat Blower]

mlomker has a point. If word got out that the US wouldn't protect a certain piece of property within the US borders because it was owned by someone else, you'd see at least three countries coming in and wiping out the Indians and taking over. It's a dog eat dog world out there, some choose to ignore it and think the world is a big bunch of hippies that can all just get along.

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

they use the same roads and other facilities the rest of us pay dearly for.

Maybe we should require them to go through customs and have a passport when they cross into 'our' land? lol.

Internally they bicker because the outstate reservations aren't close enough to population centers to get rich from casino patrons. It wasn't that long ago that they wanted to open a casino in Bloomington and were trying to finangle a deal in the legislature.

Few groups have milked their circumstances to greater success than the American Indians.

I'm 1/8 Souix by the way...my great grandmother was full blooded and one of the chief's (many) wives. I don't feel any more American Indian than I do German.

[tpunx99GSX]

Maybe they should tax the government for the years we have been on this land?
Yes i do believe the past is the past, but you LEARN from the past so that we dont repeat the past mistakes. Its like the government saying, well the slave trade turned out very profitable, so we are going to bring that back, sure it sucked for some people but that doesnt affect us.
And yes the government DOES get a LOT of money from the reservations and casinos. they dont have to pay the government shit but they do.
I have no indian blood, but my son is 1/4 indian, and my fiance is 1/2. Regardless of what you hear on the news about tribes like the Red Lake band, not all reservations are filled with corruption. They just want to live in peace and not have the government dumping a bunch of shit on their SACRED Grounds. The Yucca Mountain is considered to be VERY sacred to that tribe, and this should be respected. Is it not horrible enough that the American Government has already destroyed every treaty ever made with the indian people that they need to take more from them. C'mon. At least Obama sees this and is trying his hardest to let them keep their land. Unfortunatly other people such as yourselves want to take everything for themselves and not let a nation of people have their own land.
http://www.umich.edu/~snre492/kendziuk.html

[Halon]

Ha, I knew Tom would have some interesting comments, but I can honestly say that I never foresaw him bringing the slave trade, white neighborhoods, and past wars with the native americans into this!!

I agree that nuclear power isn't perfect. There are pros and cons, just like everything in life. But in my opinion, it's one of the better options we have, that's a proven technology, is self sustaining (meaning it doesn't rely on weather conditions), and produces no polluting emissions into the air.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Halon

Ha, I knew Tom would have some interesting comments, but I can honestly say that I never foresaw him bringing the slave trade, white neighborhoods, and past wars with the native americans into this!!

I agree that nuclear power isn't perfect. There are pros and cons, just like everything in life. But in my opinion, it's one of the better options we have, that's a proven technology, is self sustaining (meaning it doesn't rely on weather conditions), and produces no polluting emissions into the air.

Uhm.... what do you call radiation? i would say that goes through the air and causes a lot more problems then smog.

[mdost03]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Uhm.... what do you call radiation? i would say that goes through the air and causes a lot more problems then smog.

Quick Google Search
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Stran...es-73995.shtml

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Uhm.... what do you call radiation? i would say that goes through the air and causes a lot more problems then smog.

There's almost no chance of that with modern reactor designs. The ancient reactors that had issues are just that, ancient.

I think that all treaties should be broken and many Americans do feel that way. They are just another conquered civilization in an infinitely long list of conquered civilizations. The fact that they were given any deference at all shows how Americans are different than other nations.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Uhm.... what do you call radiation? i would say that goes through the air and causes a lot more problems then smog.

Did you read anything I posted earlier or are you performing selective reading on yet another topic that you want to play Passionate Superstar with? You sound as if you believe every nuclear power plant is going to turn into another Chernobyl. The sky is not falling, Chicken Little. If I didn't know you better I'd expect you to smell more like patchouli.

[Halon]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Uhm.... what do you call radiation? i would say that goes through the air and causes a lot more problems then smog.

Do you believe that nuclear plants give off a bunch of radiation to the general public? I work at nuclear plants, design the machines that move the fuel, ride the machines, and stare at the awesome blue glowing fuel assemblies in the core, and move them around. Yet I still receive more radiation every year out on the St. Croix than I do riding 30' above irradiated assemblies over the reactor core. And that's me standing above the reactor. The people working in the accounting department at the plant in a building just outside containment, receive what I would quantify as pretty much nothing. The general public that lives in the city where the plant is, they will receive more radiation eating a banana than they will from the plant.

The canisters, "casks", that they put the old fuel into once it's considered "spent", you can sit and eat lunch next to, and probably receive more radiation from the lunch you just ate.

http://www.nukeworker.com/study/radi...n-n-risk.shtml

That's a good article regarding how radiation exposure affects nuclear workers. And this is geared towards nuclear workers, the people who are inside containment and around the reactor doing the dirty work. The general public receives a fraction of what that article is referring to.


Cheers!

[mdost03]

Originally Posted by Halon

AHHHH, I'm getting radiation just by being that close to the picture on my screen!

[Matt D.]

Here you go, Tom.

Planned Nuclear Reactors Will Destroy Atomic Waste

Originally Posted by Slashdot

A group of French scientists are developing a nuclear reactor that burns up actinides — highly radioactive uranium isotopes. They estimate that 'the volume of high-level nuclear waste produced by all of France’s 58 reactors over the past 40 years could fit in one Olympic-size swimming pool.' And they're not the only ones trying to eliminate atomic waste: Researchers at the University of Texas in Austin are working on a fusion-fission reactor. The reactor destroys waste by firing streams of neutrons at it, reducing atomic waste by up to 99 percent.

[polishmafia]

I'm still waiting for the nuke-u-lar robots to start their revolution. Cool pic, Brandon!

[Halon]

I'm in Augusta right now where construction has already began on two new units. They are the first plants the US has authorized to build in a loooong time, so it's pretty big for this industry!

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...er-plants.html
Illinois just passed a bill to allow more nuclear plants to be built there. Hopefully MN is not too far behind

[Jed]

Originally Posted by Halon

Cheers!

Cool! Got any more pictures?