1991 talon 500 hp project

[way2fastalon]

here is the turbo im getting of my buddy's 420a

[slowbubblecar]

Originally Posted by way2fastlaser

here is the turbo im getting of my buddy's 420a

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Ahhhhh... You know that turbo won't bolt up to your car right??? Get a turbo meant for a turbo dsm.

[way2fastalon]

here are the pictures of the turbo i got

[way2fastalon]

SO..

today i spent about an hour at map getting things together and this is what i bought ..

wiseco pistons 8:3:1 cr 20+
eagle rods
acl race main and rod bearings
arp main studs
oem 2.0 crankshaft
balance shaft elimination kit
new aem wideband 02 sensor
$1298.00

was thinking about those wossner pistons but i haven't been able to find anything about them ...

before i picked up that stuff at map i went and got 850cc injectors and the snow performance kit methanol injection stage 2 ... thanks red-line nice 35r .

planning on taking out the engine this weekend or next weekend will post pictures

[b00sted_spyder]

Originally Posted by way2fastlaser

here are the pictures of the turbo i got


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That turbo looks like it has blown seals. Exhaust wheel is wet...but if you need a t3 turbo manifold, I have one. Ramhorn style made by Punishment Racing.

[Tachyon]

Originally Posted by ecoli

You can't compare a high compression Curt Brown car on a Dynojet using STD correction to anything around here on our low reading dyno.

Obviously. I was just playing the devil's advocate because there were some absolute statements bouncing around. I think by 2010 most people realize (at least on this board) that even though a loaded dyno had a lower grading metric, you will achieve a much better tune vs free-spinning a roller to LOLWTFOMG speed.

[Pushit2.0]

Based on the Curt Brown dyno graph he was not at MBT for some reason, there was a little more in that tune, but I doubt that would equal more peak HP, but more torque for sure.

~John

[Tachyon]

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0

Based on the Curt Brown dyno graph he was not at MBT for some reason, there was a little more in that tune, but I doubt that would equal more peak HP, but more torque for sure.

~John

I am thinking that the cams have a very late IVC which lowers the overall dynamic compression of his pistons, thus resulting in more airflow at the cost of spool and MBT. I was going to say, didn't Jrohner make around 430 AWTQ (on the omgjet) with his 16g setup?

[jrohner]

I don't think there's anything that magical about Curt Browns 499hp 16G setup. He had basically EVERYTHING for supporting mods, and I think he was running like 12.5:1 compression or something crazy. I still think it was kind of odd having peak torque up at 5-5500, and much lower than the hp. My torque was about 120 higher at 4 grand.

It can be hard to compare one dyno to the next. Plus my dynochart from MAP shows SAE correction, not STD. I've done some quick checking and everything was basically showing a 2.6% advantage using STD over SAE. Now I also saw someone who got a 4.9% difference between the two.

[Halon]

Nice color 1G.

One thing I wanted to mention was not to waste your money on upgraded fuel lines. Stock 1G lines go a long way. An upgraded feed-line may be appropriate, but other than that, unneccessary.

[way2fastalon]

how will it not Fit ?

[way2fastalon]

if i was going to run it. id do a t3 flanged manifold top or bodom mount

but its for sure a T3/T04E turbonetics Compressor Housing - 60-1 Compressor Wheel - F1-62 Turbine Wheel - Standard Housing - .63 A/R fully clockable the whole thing comes apart easy 5 bolts to take off on exhaust side from the center section and 4 for the compressor side off the center section and another 6 on the compressor side around it

best part it was free ill post pictures

like i said earlier im my post going to max out the e16 first then try to run this or fix it and sell it

[93tsiawd]

if your looking to get rid of that 16g im in need of one for my project. lmk

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

It looks like that turbo is welded to the manifold, and a turbo setup for a 420A won't bolt on to a 4g63 unless it's a t3 turbo, and you'll need a t3 manifold for a 4g63 to even get that to bolt on.

[way2fastalon]

http://www.rsaperformance.com/meramidsmt3t.html

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by way2fastlaser

http://www.rsaperformance.com/meramidsmt3t.html

It's great that you guys can buy new parts for so cheap. My X mani was nearly 4x the price.

[scheides]

Originally Posted by mlomker

It's great that you guys can buy new parts for so cheap. My X mani was nearly 4x the price.

Well you're buying good quality stuff. Megan racing stuff, I would not expect a manifold like that to last...maybe it will, I'll eat my words...their o2 housings for the evo8/9 have proven very reliable...but idk, plenty of those cheap manifolds crack pretty quick! I'm sure they'll have a manifold for the X for about $200 pretty soon too, but I doublt it'll stack up to your FR manifold

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

Originally Posted by scheides

Well you're buying good quality stuff. Megan racing stuff, I would not expect a manifold like that to last...maybe it will, I'll eat my words...their o2 housings for the evo8/9 have proven very reliable...but idk, plenty of those cheap manifolds crack pretty quick! I'm sure they'll have a manifold for the X for about $200 pretty soon too, but I doublt it'll stack up to your FR manifold

The one car that the Ebay/Megan racing manifolds don't seem to work on is DSMs. They work great on supras, hondas, 240s, etc though!

[93tsiawd]

if you want to get rid of that 16g pm me im in need of one. if its a real one

[slowbubblecar]

Just PM him. He can't miss that